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Grace Thomas

UCC filing with binding agreement to extend credit - how to establish security interest properly?

I'm working on documenting a security interest for a commercial line of credit where we have a binding agreement to extend credit but haven't actually advanced funds yet. The borrower needs equipment financing and we want to perfect our security interest before the first draw. Can you establish a valid security interest with just the binding credit agreement, or do we need to wait until actual funds are disbursed? I'm concerned about the timing of our UCC-1 filing and whether it will be effective if filed before any money changes hands. The collateral is manufacturing equipment that will be purchased with the credit line proceeds.

Yes, you can absolutely establish a security interest with a binding agreement to extend credit. The key is having value given - and a binding commitment to extend credit counts as value under UCC Article 9. File your UCC-1 as soon as you have the security agreement signed and the binding credit commitment in place.

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Dylan Baskin

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This is correct. The binding agreement itself provides the consideration needed. Don't wait for the actual advance.

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Lauren Wood

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Good to know! I was always confused about when exactly the security interest attaches.

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Ellie Lopez

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I had a similar situation last year where we filed the UCC-1 before funding and it held up perfectly when we had to enforce. The attachment happens when you have the agreement, value (including the binding commitment), and the debtor has rights in the collateral.

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Grace Thomas

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That's reassuring. Did you run into any issues with the debtor not having rights in the equipment before purchase?

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Ellie Lopez

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We handled that by having the security agreement cover after-acquired property. Once they bought the equipment with our funds, our security interest automatically attached.

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Smart approach with the after-acquired property clause. That's standard practice for equipment financing lines.

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Paige Cantoni

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I always get nervous about these timing issues. What if the credit agreement gets cancelled before any funds are advanced? Does the UCC filing become invalid?

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If the credit agreement is terminated and no funds are ever advanced, then no security interest would have attached. But the UCC filing itself remains valid - you'd just terminate it to clean up the records.

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Paige Cantoni

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Makes sense. Better to have the filing in place and terminate it later if needed than to miss the window.

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Kylo Ren

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We've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool for these complex timing situations. You can upload your credit agreement and proposed UCC-1 to verify everything aligns properly before filing. Really helpful for catching any inconsistencies between the security agreement terms and the UCC collateral description.

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Grace Thomas

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That sounds useful. We've had issues before where our collateral descriptions didn't match the actual security agreement language.

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Kylo Ren

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Exactly - it's automated document checking that spots those mismatches before they become problems. Saves a lot of headaches with rejected filings.

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I might need to check that out. We just had a UCC-1 rejected because of debtor name inconsistencies between our loan docs and the filing.

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Jason Brewer

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The SOS portal is so finicky about timing documentation. I swear they reject filings for the most minor issues.

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Tell me about it. Last month they rejected our continuation because the debtor name had one extra space in it.

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Jason Brewer

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That's exactly the kind of thing that drives me crazy! One space and suddenly your lien is at risk.

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Liam Cortez

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Just make sure your security agreement clearly states it covers the binding credit commitment as the value given. Some states are stricter about this documentation than others.

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Grace Thomas

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Good point. Should I explicitly reference the credit agreement in the security agreement itself?

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Liam Cortez

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Yes, and make sure the credit agreement amount matches what you reference in the security agreement. Keep the documentation consistent across all docs.

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Savannah Vin

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This is where having a good document review process really pays off. Small inconsistencies can become big problems later.

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Mason Stone

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I've seen lenders get tripped up thinking they need actual funds disbursed first. The binding commitment is sufficient - that's well established in the case law.

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Right, it's about the legal commitment to extend credit, not the actual extension.

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Mason Stone

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Exactly. The risk is in waiting too long and having another creditor perfect their interest first.

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Wait, so if I understand correctly - attachment can happen before perfection? I thought they had to be simultaneous.

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No, attachment and perfection are separate steps. Attachment is when the security interest becomes enforceable. Perfection is when you get priority over other creditors through filing.

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Ah ok that makes more sense. So you want to perfect as soon as possible after attachment to get priority.

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Emma Olsen

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Actually, you can file the UCC-1 before attachment too. The perfection becomes effective once attachment occurs.

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Lucas Lindsey

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This thread is super helpful. I'm dealing with a similar situation but with inventory financing instead of equipment. Same principles apply?

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Yes, same basic rules. Just make sure your collateral description properly covers inventory and any proceeds from sales.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Perfect, thanks. The inventory turnover makes me nervous about the collateral description language.

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Sophie Duck

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For inventory, you definitely want to include proceeds language in your UCC-1. Inventory gets sold and you need to maintain your security interest in the proceeds.

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One more thing to consider - if this is an SBA loan, make sure your UCC filing timing aligns with SBA requirements. They have specific rules about when security interests must be perfected.

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Grace Thomas

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Not an SBA loan in this case, but good reminder about checking any special program requirements.

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Right, different loan programs can have their own timing requirements that overlay the basic UCC rules.

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Anita George

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Thanks everyone, this has been really educational. I feel much more confident about moving forward with the UCC-1 filing now.

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Glad we could help! The key is understanding that the binding credit commitment provides the value needed for attachment.

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Dylan Baskin

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Good luck with your filing! These timing issues can be tricky but you've got the right approach.

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