UCC filing rejected - security agreement vs UCC contract formation requirements
Our bank had a UCC-1 filing rejected last week and I'm trying to figure out if this is related to UCC contract formation requirements or just a debtor name issue. The security agreement was signed in March but we didn't file the UCC-1 until September. SOS rejection notice says 'insufficient underlying security interest' but our legal department insists the security agreement meets all UCC contract formation requirements. The collateral is manufacturing equipment worth about $180K and the debtor is an LLC that changed its registered name slightly between the security agreement date and filing date. Are there specific UCC contract formation requirements that could invalidate a filing months after the security agreement was executed? I've never seen this rejection reason before and I'm wondering if the timing gap or name discrepancy is what triggered it.
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Elliott luviBorBatman
That rejection reason is pretty unusual. UCC contract formation requirements are mostly about the security agreement itself, not the filing timing. If your security agreement properly describes the collateral and was authenticated by the debtor, the underlying security interest should be valid. The timing gap between signing and filing doesn't affect the security agreement's validity under UCC contract formation requirements - it just affects perfection priority dates.
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Demi Hall
•Exactly right about the timing not affecting UCC contract formation requirements. I bet this is actually a debtor name mismatch issue disguised as a security interest problem.
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Mateusius Townsend
•Wait so the security agreement can be valid even if filed months later? I thought there were strict UCC contract formation requirements about timing.
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Kara Yoshida
I'd focus on that name change you mentioned. Even if your security agreement meets all UCC contract formation requirements perfectly, the UCC-1 filing has to match the debtor's exact legal name as of the filing date. If the LLC changed its registered name and you filed under the old name, that could trigger weird rejection notices. Some SOS systems give confusing error messages when the real issue is debtor name problems.
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Rosie Harper
•The name change was minor - they added 'Solutions' to the end of their company name. Would that really cause this kind of rejection under UCC contract formation requirements?
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Kara Yoshida
•ANY name difference can cause rejections. UCC contract formation requirements for the security agreement are separate from UCC-1 filing requirements. Your security agreement is probably fine but the filing name needs to be exact.
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Philip Cowan
•This happened to us too! We had similar UCC contract formation requirements confusion but it was really just the name issue. Super frustrating error message though.
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Caesar Grant
I ran into something similar last year and spent weeks thinking our security agreement violated some UCC contract formation requirements. Turns out I was overthinking it completely. I ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you just upload your security agreement and UCC-1 as PDFs and it instantly checks if everything aligns properly including debtor names and collateral descriptions. Saved me so much time compared to manually cross-checking all the UCC contract formation requirements details.
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Lena Schultz
•Never heard of Certana.ai but that sounds useful. Does it actually check UCC contract formation requirements or just compare document details?
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Caesar Grant
•It focuses more on document consistency - making sure your UCC-1 matches your security agreement perfectly. It caught a debtor name discrepancy I completely missed when trying to verify UCC contract formation requirements manually.
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Gemma Andrews
UGH this is so frustrating!! I swear the SOS systems are designed to confuse people about UCC contract formation requirements vs filing technicalities. Half the time the rejection reasons don't even match the actual problem. I've had filings rejected for 'insufficient security interest' when it was really just a formatting issue with the collateral description.
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Pedro Sawyer
•Same here! The error messages are terrible. You think you messed up the UCC contract formation requirements but it's usually something completely different.
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Mae Bennett
•At least you're not alone in this confusion about UCC contract formation requirements. The rejection notices need serious improvement.
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Beatrice Marshall
I've been filing UCCs for 15 years and I can tell you that 'insufficient underlying security interest' rejections are almost never about actual UCC contract formation requirements. It's usually one of three things: debtor name mismatch, incomplete collateral description, or missing required information in the UCC-1 form itself. Your security agreement probably satisfies all UCC contract formation requirements just fine.
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Rosie Harper
•That's reassuring. So I should focus on the name discrepancy rather than worrying about UCC contract formation requirements?
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Beatrice Marshall
•Absolutely. Get the exact current legal name from the state business registry and refile. Your UCC contract formation requirements foundation is solid if you have a proper security agreement.
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Melina Haruko
•This is good advice. I always check the business registry first now to avoid these UCC contract formation requirements headaches.
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Dallas Villalobos
Just went through this exact situation! Our security agreement met all UCC contract formation requirements but we kept getting rejected. Turned out the debtor had updated their LLC registration between our agreement date and filing date. Once we corrected the name on the UCC-1 to match the current registration, it went through immediately. The 'insufficient security interest' message was completely misleading - had nothing to do with UCC contract formation requirements.
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Reina Salazar
•How did you verify the current name? Just checked the state business database?
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Dallas Villalobos
•Yes exactly. Also pulled a current good standing certificate to be absolutely sure before refiling. Much easier than second-guessing UCC contract formation requirements.
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Saanvi Krishnaswami
Quick question - does the security agreement need to reference the exact same debtor name as the UCC-1 filing for UCC contract formation requirements to be met? Or can there be slight differences between the two documents?
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Demi Lagos
•The security agreement debtor name doesn't have to match the UCC-1 filing name exactly for UCC contract formation requirements. What matters is that the UCC-1 uses the debtor's correct legal name at filing time.
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Mason Lopez
•Right, UCC contract formation requirements are about attachment between you and the debtor. The UCC filing is about perfection against third parties and requires current accurate names.
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Vera Visnjic
I had a similar rejection and used Certana.ai to double-check everything before refiling. It caught several small inconsistencies between my security agreement and UCC-1 that I hadn't noticed when manually reviewing UCC contract formation requirements. Really straightforward - just upload both documents and it shows you exactly what doesn't match up.
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Jake Sinclair
•Does it help with understanding UCC contract formation requirements too or mainly just document comparison?
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Vera Visnjic
•Mainly document comparison but that's usually what you need. Most UCC contract formation requirements issues are really just filing accuracy problems in disguise.
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Brielle Johnson
The terminology around UCC contract formation requirements always trips me up. Are we talking about Article 9 attachment requirements or something else entirely? I get confused between what makes a security interest enforceable vs what makes a UCC filing valid.
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Honorah King
•UCC contract formation requirements usually refers to attachment - you need value given, debtor rights in collateral, and an authenticated security agreement. Filing validity is separate.
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Oliver Brown
•Think of it as two steps: UCC contract formation requirements create the security interest, then filing perfects it against third parties.
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Mary Bates
•This distinction between UCC contract formation requirements and filing requirements confused me for months when I started.
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Clay blendedgen
Update on my situation - pulled the current LLC registration and the name was indeed different. Refiled the UCC-1 with the correct current name and it was accepted immediately. The rejection had nothing to do with UCC contract formation requirements despite what the error message suggested. Thanks everyone for steering me toward the name issue instead of getting lost in security agreement analysis.
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Ayla Kumar
•Glad it worked out! Those misleading rejection notices about UCC contract formation requirements waste so much time.
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Lorenzo McCormick
•Great outcome. This thread will be helpful for others dealing with similar UCC contract formation requirements confusion.
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Carmella Popescu
•Perfect example of why you should always verify current debtor names before assuming UCC contract formation requirements problems.
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