UCC filing for security entitlement - what documentation needed?
Hey everyone, I'm dealing with a complex situation involving a security entitlement UCC filing and honestly I'm not sure I have all the right documentation. Our borrower has investment accounts with securities held through a broker, and we need to perfect our security interest. I know this involves Article 8 of the UCC but I'm confused about whether we file a regular UCC-1 or if there's something special we need to do for the security entitlement. The collateral description is giving me headaches - do I describe the actual securities or the entitlement itself? Also wondering about the jurisdiction issues since the securities intermediary is in Delaware but our borrower is local. Any guidance would be super helpful because I don't want to mess this up and lose perfection.
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Lilah Brooks
Security entitlements are tricky! You still file a UCC-1 but the collateral description needs to be very specific. You're perfecting against the entitlement, not the underlying securities. The key is identifying the securities account properly - usually something like 'all security entitlements carried in account number [X] at [Securities Intermediary Name]'.
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Owen Jenkins
•Thanks! So I don't need to list the individual stocks or bonds, just reference the account? That makes more sense.
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Jackson Carter
•Exactly, and make sure you get the exact legal name of the securities intermediary right on the filing.
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Kolton Murphy
The jurisdiction question is important too. For security entitlements, you generally file where the securities intermediary is located, not where the debtor is. So if the broker is in Delaware, that's probably where your UCC-1 needs to go. Check UCC 8-110 for the specific rules.
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Owen Jenkins
•Oh wow, so I might need to file in Delaware instead of locally? That changes everything. Do I need to research Delaware's specific filing requirements?
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Kolton Murphy
•Yes, Delaware has their own portal and fee structure. It's pretty straightforward but definitely different from what you might be used to locally.
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Evelyn Rivera
•I ran into this exact issue last month. Had to refile because I initially filed in the wrong state. Cost us extra time and fees.
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Julia Hall
I've been dealing with these types of filings for years and the biggest mistake I see is people trying to describe the underlying assets instead of the entitlement. Also, you mentioned Article 8 - make sure you understand the difference between certificated and uncertificated securities because it affects how you perfect.
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Owen Jenkins
•These are all held electronically through the broker, so uncertificated I assume? The borrower doesn't have physical stock certificates.
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Julia Hall
•Right, if they're held in a brokerage account then you're dealing with security entitlements, not direct ownership of uncertificated securities. The UCC-1 filing is the right approach.
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Arjun Patel
Just went through something similar and found a tool that really helped verify all the documentation was consistent. Certana.ai has this UCC document checker where you can upload your loan docs and proposed UCC-1 to make sure the debtor names and collateral descriptions all match up properly. Saved me from filing with inconsistent information that could have caused problems later.
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Owen Jenkins
•That sounds useful - I'm always worried about name mismatches between the loan agreement and UCC filing. How does it work exactly?
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Arjun Patel
•You just upload PDFs of your documents and it cross-checks everything automatically. For security entitlements it caught that my collateral description was too vague and wouldn't have properly covered the account.
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Jade Lopez
•I've heard good things about that tool. Definitely worth checking if you're dealing with complex collateral like investment accounts.
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Tony Brooks
ugh why does this have to be so complicated??? I thought a UCC filing was just filling out a form but apparently there's like 50 different rules depending on what you're securing. Can't they just make it simple?
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Lilah Brooks
•I get the frustration but security entitlements really are different from typical equipment or inventory collateral. The rules exist for good reasons.
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Tony Brooks
•I guess but it feels like you need a law degree just to file a UCC-1 correctly these days
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Ella rollingthunder87
Don't forget about the control agreement! For security entitlements, you might want to get a control agreement with the securities intermediary in addition to filing the UCC-1. That gives you even stronger rights and can be important if the debtor goes into bankruptcy.
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Owen Jenkins
•Control agreement? Is that required or just recommended? Our loan docs don't mention anything about that.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•Not required but highly recommended. It's like getting both a UCC filing and possession of the collateral. Gives you priority over other secured creditors in most cases.
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Julia Hall
•Good point. Control trumps filing in the priority rules under Article 8. Definitely worth pursuing if the intermediary will cooperate.
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Yara Campbell
Wait I'm confused - if you have a control agreement do you still need to file a UCC-1? I thought control was an alternative to filing for security entitlements.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•You can perfect by control OR by filing, but many lenders do both for extra protection. Control gives you priority but filing gives you broader notice to other potential creditors.
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Yara Campbell
•Ah that makes sense. Belt and suspenders approach.
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Isaac Wright
One thing to watch out for - make sure your borrower actually has security entitlements and not just a regular investment account. Sometimes what people call a 'brokerage account' is actually structured differently for UCC purposes.
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Owen Jenkins
•How can I tell the difference? The account statements just show it as a regular investment account with various stocks and mutual funds.
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Isaac Wright
•Look at the account agreement with the broker. If the securities are held in the broker's name for the benefit of your borrower, then they're security entitlements. If somehow the borrower is the direct registered owner, it's different.
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Jackson Carter
•In practice, almost all retail brokerage accounts create security entitlements. Direct registration is pretty rare these days.
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Maya Diaz
I had a similar filing get rejected because I didn't include enough detail in the collateral description. The SOS said 'all security entitlements' was too vague. Had to refile with the specific account numbers and intermediary information.
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Owen Jenkins
•Good to know! So being specific is better than being too broad. I'll make sure to include the account numbers.
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Lilah Brooks
•Which state was that in? Some filing offices are pickier than others about collateral descriptions.
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Maya Diaz
•This was in California. They seem to want very detailed descriptions for anything involving securities.
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Tami Morgan
Just want to say thanks for posting this question - I'm dealing with something similar and this thread has been super helpful. The jurisdiction issue especially since I was about to file in the wrong state!
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Owen Jenkins
•Glad it helped! This forum is great for figuring out these tricky UCC issues.
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Kolton Murphy
•Always happy to help prevent filing mistakes. Been there myself too many times!
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Rami Samuels
Update for anyone following this - I ended up using that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier to double-check everything before filing. It caught that my debtor name on the UCC-1 didn't exactly match what was in the loan agreement (missing a comma in the LLC name). Would have probably caused problems down the road. Filed in Delaware as suggested and it went through without issues. Thanks everyone!
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Arjun Patel
•Great to hear it worked out! Those little name details can cause big headaches later if not caught early.
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Lilah Brooks
•Perfect example of why it's worth taking the time to verify everything before filing. Congrats on getting it sorted out.
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Julia Hall
•Excellent outcome. Security entitlement filings can be tricky but sounds like you nailed it.
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