< Back to UCC Document Community

Zainab Mahmoud

UCC filing confusion with loan and security agreement debtor name variations

Running into a mess with our UCC-1 filing and need some guidance. We have a loan and security agreement where the debtor is listed as "Mountain Peak Manufacturing LLC" but their articles of incorporation show "Mountain Peak Manufacturing, LLC" (note the comma). The loan documents were signed 8 months ago and we're just now getting around to perfecting our security interest in their equipment. Our attorney drafted the UCC-1 using the exact name from the loan and security agreement without the comma, but I'm worried the Secretary of State will reject it or worse - that our lien won't be enforceable if there's a name mismatch. The collateral includes CNC machines, welding equipment, and inventory worth about $850K total. Has anyone dealt with punctuation differences between loan docs and corporate filings? Should we amend the loan and security agreement first or just file the UCC with the corporate name? Really don't want to mess this up since it's a substantial exposure for our bank.

This is actually pretty common - punctuation variations between loan docs and corporate records happen all the time. The key is what shows up in the state's official records. If their articles show the comma, that's typically what you want to use on the UCC-1. Most Secretary of State offices are pretty strict about exact name matches these days.

0 coins

Agreed on checking the state records first. But also worth running a UCC search under both name variations to see if anything else pops up. Sometimes you'll find existing filings under slightly different versions.

0 coins

Wait, so if our loan and security agreement has one version of the name but we file the UCC with a different version, does that create problems with the security agreement itself? Like enforceability issues?

0 coins

Had this exact situation last year with a client. The loan and security agreement had "ABC Industries Inc" but the state records showed "ABC Industries, Inc." We ended up filing the UCC-1 with the official state name (with comma) and it went through fine. Never had to amend the underlying loan docs - the security agreement was still enforceable because the entity was clearly identifiable.

0 coins

That's reassuring. Did you get any pushback from your legal team about the name discrepancy? Our in-house counsel is being super cautious about it.

0 coins

Initially yes, but once we explained that UCC filings need to match state records for searchability, they understood. The loan agreement identifies the same legal entity regardless of punctuation.

0 coins

Before you file anything, I'd suggest using something like Certana.ai to verify your documents are consistent. You can upload your loan and security agreement along with the corporate docs and it'll flag any name mismatches or other discrepancies. Saved me from a rejected filing last month when I caught a similar punctuation issue.

0 coins

Never heard of that tool - is it specifically for UCC stuff? How does it work exactly?

0 coins

Yeah, it's designed for document verification in secured transactions. You just upload PDFs and it cross-checks names, dates, collateral descriptions between your different docs. Really helpful for catching these kinds of inconsistencies before they become problems.

0 coins

Interesting - so it would compare the loan and security agreement name against what we're planning to put on the UCC-1? That could definitely help avoid issues.

0 coins

Here's what I always tell people: file the UCC using the EXACT name from the Secretary of State database. Period. The loan and security agreement doesn't need to match perfectly as long as it's clearly the same entity. Courts understand that punctuation variations don't change the legal identity of the debtor.

0 coins

This is the right answer. I've seen too many filings get rejected because people used the name from their loan docs instead of the official state records.

0 coins

So you're saying the security agreement is still valid even if the UCC uses a slightly different name format? That seems like it could create legal issues down the road.

0 coins

Correct - the security agreement creates the security interest, the UCC filing just perfects it. As long as both documents clearly refer to the same legal entity, you're fine. It's about substance over form.

0 coins

ugh I hate these name matching issues. spent 3 hours last week trying to figure out if "Smith & Associates LLC" should have an ampersand or "and" on the UCC filing. The state database had it both ways in different places! Finally just called the SOS office directly.

0 coins

What did they tell you when you called?

0 coins

They said to use whatever's on the most recent filing - usually the articles of incorporation or latest amendment. Still felt like a crapshoot though.

0 coins

For what it's worth, I've used Certana's document checker for similar situations and it's pretty thorough. It caught a name variation I missed between our security agreement and UCC-3 continuation. Would definitely recommend running your docs through it before filing - better safe than sorry with an $850K exposure.

0 coins

That's exactly what I'm worried about - this is too big to mess up. I'll look into that verification tool. Thanks for the rec.

0 coins

Second this recommendation. Used it last month for a complex equipment financing deal and it flagged several inconsistencies we would have missed. Really straightforward to use too.

0 coins

Quick question - when you say the loan and security agreement was signed 8 months ago, have you been charging interest this whole time without a perfected security interest? That seems like a big risk for the bank.

0 coins

Yeah, we've been accruing interest. The security agreement was signed so we have the security interest, just not perfected yet. Definitely not ideal but we've been backed up on filings.

0 coins

Yikes, that's a long time to go unperfected, especially with that much collateral value. Good thing you're getting it sorted now.

0 coins

At least you're within the 9-month window for purchase money security interests if any of that equipment was financed. But definitely get that UCC-1 filed ASAP.

0 coins

I always pull the corporate records directly from the state database before preparing any UCC filings. Takes an extra 10 minutes but saves so much headache later. Your loan and security agreement name is close enough that enforceability shouldn't be an issue.

0 coins

Smart practice. Do you use the state's online database or actually order certified copies?

0 coins

Online database is fine for UCC name verification. I only order certified copies if there's litigation involved or if the client specifically requests them.

0 coins

One more thing to consider - if you file with the comma (matching state records) but your loan and security agreement doesn't have it, just make a note in your file explaining the discrepancy. Helps if anyone questions it later during an audit or due diligence.

0 coins

Good point about documentation. I'll make sure to include a memo about why we used the state record version vs the loan doc version.

0 coins

Yeah, future you (or your successor) will thank you for that explanation when they're reviewing the file years from now.

0 coins

Final thought - since you're dealing with equipment collateral worth $850K, you might also want to consider whether any of it qualifies as fixtures requiring special filing procedures. CNC machines can sometimes be considered fixtures depending on how they're installed.

0 coins

Oh great, another complication I hadn't thought of. The CNC equipment is bolted to concrete pads. Do I need separate fixture filings?

0 coins

Potentially yes, especially if they're integrated into the building systems. You'll want to check your state's fixture filing requirements. Some states require dual filings - UCC and real estate records.

0 coins

This is getting complex. Might be worth having outside counsel review the whole setup to avoid any gaps in your security interest.

0 coins

UCC Document Community AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today