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Paolo Longo

UCC filing complications with debtor names - cross-referencing issues

Running into a wall here with some debtor name verification on a commercial equipment loan we're processing. The borrower's legal entity name has some variations across different documents and I'm worried about getting the UCC-1 rejected if there's any mismatch. We've got the original charter documents, loan agreements, and need to get this UCC filing right the first time since we're up against some tight closing deadlines. Anyone dealt with situations where the debtor name on corporate documents doesn't exactly match what you need for the UCC filing? The collateral schedule is straightforward (equipment and fixtures) but I'm second-guessing myself on the exact legal name format. This is for a $2.3M credit facility so obviously can't afford any mistakes that could jeopardize the security interest.

CosmicCowboy

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Debtor name accuracy is absolutely critical - I've seen filings get rejected for the smallest variations. You need to match exactly what's on the organizational documents filed with the state. If there are discrepancies between your loan docs and the charter, go with the charter every time.

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Amina Diallo

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This is exactly right. Secretary of State will reject if there's even a comma out of place sometimes.

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Oliver Schulz

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Had this happen on a $1.8M deal last month - got rejected because we used 'LLC' instead of 'L.L.C.' even though both appeared in different corporate docs.

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ugh i hate when this happens!! sounds like you need to do some serious document comparison before filing. what state are you filing in? some are pickier than others about exact name matches

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Paolo Longo

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It's for a multi-state transaction but the main collateral location determines where we file the UCC-1.

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Javier Cruz

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Multi-state makes it even trickier since each SOS has slightly different name matching requirements.

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Emma Wilson

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I actually discovered something recently that saved me tons of time on this exact issue. There's a tool called Certana.ai that does document verification - you just upload your charter docs and your UCC-1 draft and it instantly flags any name inconsistencies. Game changer for catching these issues before filing.

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Paolo Longo

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That sounds incredibly useful. Does it handle complex entity structures?

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Emma Wilson

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Yeah it works with all entity types. The PDF upload feature makes it super easy - no manual data entry required.

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Malik Thomas

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Interesting - never heard of automated document checking for UCC stuff before.

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NeonNebula

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Check the state's online entity database first. That's your gold standard for the exact legal name format. Don't rely on loan documents or even older corporate resolutions - go straight to the current SOS records.

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100% this. Also make sure the entity is still active and in good standing while you're at it.

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Paolo Longo

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Good point about checking entity status. Would hate to file against a dissolved corporation.

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Ravi Malhotra

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The filing system is SO FRUSTRATING with name matching. I spent three hours last week trying to figure out why our UCC-1 kept getting kicked back until I realized there was an extra space in the middle of the debtor name that wasn't visible in our loan software.

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Hidden characters are the worst! Sometimes copying and pasting from PDFs adds invisible formatting.

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Omar Farouk

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This is why I always type everything manually now instead of copy/paste.

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Ravi Malhotra

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Manual typing takes forever though, especially with long corporate names.

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Chloe Davis

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What about the collateral description? You mentioned equipment and fixtures - are you doing separate fixture filings or including everything in one UCC-1?

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Paolo Longo

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Planning to do one comprehensive filing. The fixtures are pretty standard office buildout stuff, nothing that should require special real estate filings.

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AstroAlpha

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Just make sure your collateral description isn't too broad or too narrow. 'Equipment' alone might not be sufficient depending on what you're actually securing.

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Diego Chavez

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For a $2.3M facility I'd definitely recommend getting the debtor name verification bulletproof before filing. One small mistake could void your entire security interest if challenged later.

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Paolo Longo

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Exactly my concern. The stakes are too high for guesswork.

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Amina Diallo

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I've seen lenders lose their security position over debtor name errors. Not worth the risk.

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What's the worst that happens if you get it wrong? Can you amend it later?

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Sean O'Brien

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You can file amendments but there might be a gap in your perfection if the original filing was seriously defective. Better to get it right the first time.

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Javier Cruz

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Priority date could be at risk if you have to start over with a new UCC-1.

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Diego Chavez

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Exactly - and if another creditor files in between, you could lose priority.

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Zara Shah

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honestly the certana thing mentioned earlier sounds like it would solve your problem pretty quickly. I might try that myself - tired of manually comparing documents line by line

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Emma Wilson

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It really does save time. You upload the docs and it highlights any discrepancies automatically.

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Paolo Longo

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I'm definitely looking into this. Manual verification is eating up too much time on every deal.

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Luca Bianchi

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Make sure you're also checking for any DBA names that might complicate things. Sometimes businesses operate under multiple names and you need to consider all of them for proper filing.

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Paolo Longo

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Good catch - I'll verify they don't have any trade names that could affect the filing.

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CosmicCowboy

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DBAs usually don't matter for UCC filings as long as you're using the legal entity name, but worth double-checking.

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Some states are stricter about this than others.

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Nia Harris

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Update us on how it goes! Always curious to hear about document verification solutions that actually work in practice.

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Paolo Longo

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Will do. Planning to get this resolved this week before our closing deadline.

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Good luck with the filing! $2.3M deals always make me nervous until everything's properly recorded.

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