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Ravi Malhotra

UCC Optional Filer Reference Data - What Actually Goes in This Field?

Been doing UCC filings for about 3 years now and I'm still confused about the optional filer reference data field on UCC-1s. Our legal department keeps asking me to include specific reference codes but I'm not sure what format or information is actually useful here. Sometimes I see filing numbers from other states, sometimes internal loan numbers, sometimes just random text. Is there any standardization for UCC optional filer reference data across different SOS offices? We're dealing with multi-state equipment financing and I want to make sure we're using this field effectively for tracking purposes. Anyone have guidance on best practices?

The optional filer reference data field is exactly that - optional. Most SOS offices don't validate what goes in there, so you can put whatever internal tracking info makes sense for your organization. We typically use our loan number plus a state abbreviation.

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Omar Farouk

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That's what we do too. Loan number plus state code helps when we're doing continuation searches later.

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Chloe Davis

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Wait, so there's no character limit or format requirements at all? I've been stressing about this for weeks.

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AstroAlpha

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I've seen people put all kinds of stuff in that field - internal file numbers, borrower names, even dates. The key is consistency within your own system. Just make sure whatever you put there helps YOU track the filing later.

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Diego Chavez

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This is so true. We switched from using borrower names to loan numbers and it made amendment tracking so much easier.

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Actually had a great experience recently with document verification on multi-state filings. Been using Certana.ai's UCC document checker - you just upload your UCC-1 PDFs and it instantly verifies all the reference data fields are consistent across your filings. Really helpful when you're doing equipment financing across multiple states and want to make sure your optional filer reference data matches up with your internal systems.

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Sean O'Brien

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How does that work exactly? Does it check against some database or just compare your own documents?

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It compares your documents to each other and flags inconsistencies. So if you're using different reference formats across states, it'll catch that.

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Zara Shah

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Been filing for 15 years and honestly most people overthink this field. Put something that makes sense to you and your team. The SOS doesn't care as long as it's not offensive or obviously inappropriate.

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Luca Bianchi

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LOL what counts as obviously inappropriate? Asking for a friend...

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Probably anything with swear words or personally identifying info about the debtor that doesn't belong there.

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Nia Harris

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We had someone put their social security number in there once by mistake. That was awkward.

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For equipment financing specifically, I recommend using your internal loan number plus maybe the equipment type code. Makes it super easy to cross-reference when you're doing UCC-3 amendments later.

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Aisha Ali

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Equipment type code is brilliant. We just use generic numbers and then forget what the collateral actually was.

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Ethan Moore

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Yeah, especially for construction equipment where you might have multiple similar items financed.

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Yuki Nakamura

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One thing to watch out for - some states have character limits on that field even though it's optional. Found that out the hard way when our 50-character reference got truncated to 25.

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StarSurfer

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Which states have limits? I haven't run into this yet but want to be prepared.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Texas and Florida both have shorter limits than most. Can't remember the exact numbers but it's definitely less than 40 characters.

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Carmen Reyes

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This thread is so helpful! I've been leaving that field blank because I didn't know what to put. Going to start using our internal file numbers now.

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Andre Moreau

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Same here. Always wondered if leaving it blank looked unprofessional or something.

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It's totally fine to leave blank. But using it for tracking is definitely worth it if you do a lot of filings.

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Pro tip: if you're doing a lot of UCC filings, create a standard format and stick to it. We use LOAN###-STATE-YYYY format and it makes searching so much easier.

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Mei Chen

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That's a good system. Do you ever run into issues with the year part when you do continuations?

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Nah, we keep the original year. The continuation filing gets its own reference but links back to the original.

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CosmicCadet

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Smart approach. We've been inconsistent and it's becoming a nightmare to track everything.

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Liam O'Connor

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Anyone else use this field to track which attorney or paralegal prepared the filing? We started doing that after some internal mix-ups.

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Amara Adeyemi

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Interesting idea. We just use the attorney's initials in our internal notes but putting it in the filing itself could be useful.

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Might be helpful for liability tracking too, in case there are errors later.

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The UCC optional filer reference data field is basically your chance to make future searches easier. Whatever system you choose, just be consistent. I've seen too many firms with random approaches that make auditing a nightmare.

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Dylan Wright

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Auditing is exactly why we need to get our act together on this. Thanks for the reality check.

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NebulaKnight

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Yeah, when the bank examiners come around, having a consistent reference system makes everything go smoother.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Just to add another perspective - we've started using that field to note if the filing was done electronically vs paper. Probably overkill but helps with our internal process tracking.

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Dmitry Popov

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That's actually pretty clever. Do you use codes like E-LOAN123 or something more detailed?

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Sofia Ramirez

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Just add an E- prefix for electronic. Simple but effective for our reporting.

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Ava Rodriguez

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This thread has given me so many ideas for improving our filing system. Thanks everyone!

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Great thread! As someone new to UCC filings, this is incredibly helpful. I've been overthinking the optional reference field too. Based on everyone's input, it sounds like the key is picking a format that works for your organization and sticking with it consistently. I'm leaning toward using our internal loan number plus state abbreviation like several people mentioned. One question though - for multi-state equipment financing, do you use the same reference format across all states or customize it by state requirements?

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Welcome to UCC filings! For multi-state equipment financing, I'd definitely recommend using the same format across all states - it makes tracking so much easier. The loan number plus state abbreviation approach that others mentioned works really well. Just make sure to check character limits in each state like Yuki mentioned earlier. Some states truncate longer references. We learned that lesson the hard way too!

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Amina Toure

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This discussion is gold! I've been handling UCC filings for about 18 months and always felt like I was missing something with that optional reference field. Reading through everyone's approaches, I think I'm going to adopt the loan number + state abbreviation system too. One thing I'm curious about - for those doing equipment financing across multiple states, do you ever run into issues where the same loan covers equipment in different states? Do you file separate UCCs with different reference numbers, or use one master reference? We've got some construction companies that move equipment between states and I'm never sure how to handle the reference tracking.

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Ayla Kumar

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Great question about multi-state equipment scenarios! I'm relatively new to UCC filings myself but have been following this thread closely. From what I understand, you'd typically file separate UCCs in each state where the equipment is located, but you could use a master reference system that ties them together. Maybe something like LOAN123-MASTER for the primary state filing and LOAN123-TX, LOAN123-CA etc. for the related state filings? That way you maintain the connection but can still track which specific filing covers equipment in which state. Would love to hear from the more experienced folks here about best practices for this situation!

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This is such a valuable discussion! I'm relatively new to UCC filings and have been struggling with this exact question. Reading through everyone's experiences, it's clear that consistency is key. I'm thinking of implementing a system similar to what Jamal suggested - using a standardized format like LOAN###-STATE-YYYY. For our equipment financing work, this seems like it would make tracking continuations and amendments much more manageable. One thing I'm wondering about - do any of you include the debtor's abbreviated name in your reference format? Sometimes we have multiple loans to the same entity and I'm thinking something like LOAN123-ACME-TX-2025 might be even more helpful for quick identification. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real-world experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that's hard to find elsewhere!

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