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Teresa Boyd

UCC Alabama search results not matching our filed documents - debtor name issue?

We filed a UCC-1 in Alabama back in November for a equipment financing deal, but when I run the UCC Alabama search on the SOS website, I'm getting inconsistent results. Sometimes our filing shows up, sometimes it doesn't. The debtor name on our original filing is 'J&M Construction LLC' but I've tried searching under 'J & M Construction LLC' (with spaces), 'JM Construction LLC', and even just 'J&M Construction' and getting different results each time. This is for a $180K excavator loan and we need to make sure our lien is properly recorded and searchable. Has anyone else had problems with Alabama's UCC search being unreliable? I'm worried we might have a debtor name mismatch that could invalidate our security interest. The filing number is AL-2024-11-045892 if that helps. Really need to get this sorted before we advance more funds.

Lourdes Fox

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Alabama's search system can be really finicky with punctuation and spacing. I've seen this exact issue before - the system treats 'J&M' and 'J & M' as completely different entities. Try running your search with just the core business name without any punctuation. Also check if you filed under the exact legal name from their articles of incorporation.

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Bruno Simmons

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This is so frustrating! We had a similar issue last month with a filing in Alabama. The search would only find our UCC-1 if we used the EXACT spacing and punctuation from the original filing. No variations worked at all.

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Yeah Alabama's system is notorious for this. Other states are more forgiving with name variations but Alabama requires exact matches. Really annoying when you're trying to do due diligence searches.

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Zane Gray

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Check your original UCC-1 filing document - what exactly did you put in the debtor name field? The search will only find it if you use that exact format. Also, Alabama allows you to search by filing number which should be more reliable than name searches. Try searching by AL-2024-11-045892 directly.

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Teresa Boyd

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I just tried the filing number search and it comes up fine. So the filing is definitely there. It's just the name search that's inconsistent. Makes me nervous about other lenders being able to find our filing when they do their searches.

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Lourdes Fox

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That's actually a good sign that the filing number search works. It means your UCC-1 is properly recorded. The name search issues are more about the search interface than your actual filing.

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I've been dealing with this exact problem for months. Alabama's UCC search is terrible compared to other states. What I started doing was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload your UCC-1 and it automatically cross-checks the debtor name formatting against what's actually on file. Saved me so much time trying to figure out search variations.

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Teresa Boyd

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Never heard of Certana.ai - does it work with Alabama filings specifically? Our main concern is making sure other lenders can find our lien when they do their searches.

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Yeah it works with all states including Alabama. You just upload your filed UCC-1 PDF and it verifies the debtor name matches what's searchable. Really helpful for catching those punctuation issues that cause search problems.

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This is why I always recommend getting the exact legal entity name from the Secretary of State's business entity search BEFORE filing any UCC. Alabama is particularly strict about exact name matches. If there's any discrepancy between what you filed and the actual legal name, it could create priority issues down the road.

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Teresa Boyd

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We did pull the entity info from Alabama SOS business search, but I'm wondering if there might be a slight formatting difference between what we copied and what we actually filed. Is there a way to verify this without refiling?

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You can request a copy of your filed UCC-1 from Alabama SOS to see exactly what name was recorded. Compare that to the business entity records to spot any discrepancies. If there's a mismatch, you'll need to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct it.

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Monique Byrd

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Good advice. Alabama charges like $15 for certified copies of filed documents. Worth it to have the exact record of what you filed versus what you intended to file.

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UGH Alabama's system drives me crazy!! I swear they update their search interface every few months and it gets worse each time. Last year I could find filings with partial names, now it's super picky about exact matches. Makes doing lien searches a nightmare.

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Lia Quinn

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I know right? Used to be you could search 'Construction' and find all the construction companies. Now you have to know the exact business name format or you miss stuff.

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Exactly! And don't even get me started on their system going down for 'maintenance' every other week. So unprofessional for something this important.

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Haley Stokes

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For what it's worth, I had a similar debtor name issue in Alabama last year. Filed under 'ABC Company LLC' but the business was actually registered as 'ABC Company, LLC' with a comma. Had to file a UCC-3 amendment to fix it. Cost us an extra $25 but was worth it for the peace of mind.

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Teresa Boyd

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How long did the amendment take to process? We're under some time pressure here with additional funding tranches coming up.

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Haley Stokes

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Alabama usually processes UCC-3 amendments within 2-3 business days if filed electronically. Much faster than the original UCC-1 filing which can take a week or more.

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Asher Levin

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I've started using a different approach - I run searches under every possible name variation I can think of before finalizing any UCC filing. Takes longer upfront but saves headaches later. For your situation, I'd also search under 'J AND M Construction LLC' - sometimes the system treats & and 'and' differently.

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Bruno Simmons

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That's smart. I usually do like 5-6 different search variations before I'm confident I haven't missed anything. Alabama makes this way harder than it needs to be.

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Serene Snow

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Quick question - are you searching in the right filing office? Alabama has some equipment that might be filed at the county level instead of state level depending on the collateral type. Excavators are usually state-level UCC-1 filings but worth double-checking.

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Teresa Boyd

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We filed at the state level through the Alabama SOS. The excavator isn't attached to real estate so it should definitely be a state filing. Good point though - I've seen people file in the wrong office before.

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Serene Snow

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Yeah sounds like you're in the right place. Mobile equipment like excavators is definitely state-level filing. County would only be if it was somehow considered a fixture.

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I ran into something similar last month and ended up using Certana.ai to verify our UCC documents. Turns out we had a small typo in the debtor name that was causing search issues. The tool caught it immediately when I uploaded our filed UCC-1. Really wish I'd known about it earlier - would have saved days of troubleshooting.

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Teresa Boyd

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That sounds like exactly what we need. Does Certana.ai actually connect to the Alabama filing system or does it just check document consistency?

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It checks document consistency and cross-references names against proper formatting. Won't replace doing the actual state search but helps you identify issues with your filed documents that might cause search problems.

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Romeo Barrett

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Honestly, Alabama needs to upgrade their entire UCC system. It's 2025 and we're still dealing with search issues that were solved in other states years ago. The fact that you can't do fuzzy name matching or find obvious variations is ridiculous for something this critical to commercial lending.

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Totally agree. Georgia's system lets you search with wildcards and partial matches. Alabama feels like it's stuck in 2010.

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Romeo Barrett

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Right? And their mobile site is completely unusable. Try doing a UCC search on your phone in Alabama - it's a joke.

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Justin Trejo

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Update us when you figure out the exact name format issue! I bookmark threads like this because I know I'll run into the same problem eventually. Alabama UCC searches are always an adventure.

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Teresa Boyd

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Will do! Planning to request a certified copy of our filing tomorrow to see the exact name format we used. Hopefully that'll solve the search mystery.

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Alana Willis

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Good plan. Sometimes the name gets transcribed slightly differently than what you submitted, especially if there were any special characters or formatting.

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