UCC 9 section 102 definitions causing confusion on my financing statement - need clarity
I'm preparing a UCC-1 for a commercial loan on restaurant equipment and I keep running into issues with UCC 9 section 102 definitions. The borrower operates under "Mario's Italian Kitchen LLC" but their articles of incorporation show "Mario's Italian Kitchen, LLC" (with the comma). Section 102 talks about how to determine the debtor's name but I'm getting mixed signals on whether punctuation matters for the exact legal name requirement. I've already had one filing rejected by the SOS office and I can't afford another mistake since we're approaching the loan closing deadline. The collateral includes kitchen equipment, point-of-sale systems, and some fixtures that might need special treatment. Has anyone dealt with similar name formatting issues under the 102 definitions? I'm particularly confused about subsection (a)(70) regarding 'debtor' and how strictly the name has to match the organizational documents.
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Lilah Brooks
UCC 9-102 can be tricky but the key is understanding that the debtor name has to match EXACTLY what's on the organizational documents filed with the state. The comma issue you're dealing with is actually pretty common. You need to use whatever name appears on the articles of incorporation or certificate of formation - punctuation and all. If the articles show "Mario's Italian Kitchen, LLC" with the comma, that's what goes on your UCC-1. The SOS systems are very picky about exact matches.
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Jackson Carter
•This is absolutely correct. I learned this the hard way after having three filings rejected for minor punctuation differences. The 102 definitions are clear that you use the name on the public organic record, period.
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Kolton Murphy
•Wait, but what if there are multiple versions of the name in different state filings? I've seen cases where the articles have one version and amendments show slight differences.
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Lilah Brooks
•Good question - you always go with the most recent filed document. If there was an amendment that changed the name format, use that version. When in doubt, check the current certificate of good standing.
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Evelyn Rivera
Been there! Section 102 definitions drove me crazy until I figured out the system. For LLCs you're looking at subsection (a)(70) like you mentioned, but the real key is cross-referencing with your state's Secretary of State database. Pull up the exact entity record and copy the name character for character. Don't trust what the borrower tells you their name is - I've had clients swear their name was one thing when the state records showed something completely different.
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Owen Jenkins
•That's exactly what happened to me! The borrower insisted there was no comma but when I finally checked the state database myself, there it was. Wasted two weeks on that mistake.
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Julia Hall
•THIS. Always verify with the state database directly. I bookmark the search pages for every state I file in regularly. Saves so much time and prevents these rejections.
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Arjun Patel
I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool for situations exactly like this. You upload your articles of incorporation and your draft UCC-1 and it instantly flags any name mismatches or inconsistencies. It's been a lifesaver for catching these section 102 compliance issues before filing. The tool cross-checks everything automatically so you don't have to worry about missing punctuation or formatting differences. Really wish I had found this earlier - would have saved me from multiple rejection headaches.
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Jade Lopez
•How accurate is it with state-specific requirements? Some states have weird quirks about how they want names formatted even when they match the articles.
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Arjun Patel
•It's been spot-on for me across different states. The system seems to know the specific formatting requirements for each SOS office. I've used it for filings in Texas, California, and Florida without any issues.
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Tony Brooks
•Interesting, I might have to check that out. Manual document comparison is such a pain and I always second-guess myself on name accuracy.
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Ella rollingthunder87
ugh why does this have to be so complicated?? I'm dealing with the same thing except my borrower is a corporation and I can't figure out if I need to include 'Inc.' or 'Incorporated' based on what their charter says. The UCC 9 section 102 stuff just makes my head spin. Shouldn't there be a simpler way to handle debtor names without all this technical legal parsing?
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Lilah Brooks
•For corporations you follow the same rule - use exactly what appears on the articles of incorporation. If it says 'Inc.' use Inc., if it says 'Incorporated' use that. The system has to be precise because there could be multiple similar entities.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•ok that makes sense I guess... just frustrated because this seems like something that should be automated by now
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Yara Campbell
•I feel your pain. The learning curve on UCC filings is steep but once you get the hang of the 102 requirements it becomes second nature.
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Isaac Wright
Make sure you're also considering the fixture filing aspects you mentioned. If some of that restaurant equipment is attached to the real estate, you might need to file a UCC-1 fixture filing in the real estate records too. Section 102 definitions of 'fixtures' can be tricky - basically anything that's become part of the real estate. Commercial kitchen equipment often falls into this category if it's built-in or permanently attached. The debtor name requirements are the same but the filing location is different.
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Owen Jenkins
•Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about that. The pizza ovens are definitely built into the space and there's a ventilation system that's part of the building structure.
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Isaac Wright
•Exactly - those would likely need fixture treatment. You'll want to file in the county real estate records where the property is located, in addition to your regular UCC-1 with the Secretary of State.
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Maya Diaz
•This is why I always do a walk-through of the collateral location before finalizing my filings. Helps identify what needs special fixture handling.
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Tami Morgan
The section 102 definitions are actually pretty straightforward once you break them down. The confusion usually comes from trying to overthink it. For your LLC situation, subsection (a)(70) defines 'debtor' as the person who owes payment of the obligation secured. But for naming purposes, you're looking at how the organization is identified in its public organic record. The comma issue is definitely something the SOS systems flag - they do exact text matching on debtor names.
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Rami Samuels
•What about d/b/a names? If the LLC also operates under a trade name, do you include that anywhere in the UCC-1?
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Tami Morgan
•Trade names can be added in the additional debtor information section but the primary debtor name must be the exact legal entity name from the organizational documents.
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Haley Bennett
I had this exact same issue last month with a borrower whose LLC name had inconsistent spacing in different documents. After getting rejected twice, I finally called the SOS office directly and they walked me through their exact matching requirements. Turns out their system is very literal - every space, comma, and period has to match their database exactly. Might be worth a phone call to your state's UCC division before resubmitting.
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Jackson Carter
•That's good advice. Most SOS offices have a UCC help line and the staff are usually pretty helpful with name formatting questions.
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Owen Jenkins
•I should have thought of that earlier. Sometimes the direct approach is best instead of trying to interpret the statutes on your own.
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Douglas Foster
Been filing UCCs for 15 years and section 102 issues still trip people up regularly. The key thing to remember is that the UCC system is designed to provide notice to other creditors, so the debtor name has to be searchable in the system. That's why exact matching is so important. If someone searches for 'Mario's Italian Kitchen LLC' (without comma) they won't find a filing under 'Mario's Italian Kitchen, LLC' (with comma) in most systems. The punctuation really does matter for search functionality.
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Nina Chan
•This explains why the rules seem so picky. It's not just bureaucracy, it's about making sure the public notice function actually works.
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Owen Jenkins
•That makes a lot more sense when you think about it from a search perspective. Thanks for explaining the reasoning behind the strict name requirements.
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Ruby Knight
Have you considered using Certana.ai's UCC verification system? I started using it after getting burned on name mismatches and it's been incredibly helpful. You just upload your organizational documents and your draft UCC-1 and it flags any inconsistencies automatically. Really takes the guesswork out of section 102 compliance. The system catches things like punctuation differences, spacing issues, and even abbreviation problems that I might miss in manual review.
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Diego Castillo
•How long does the verification process take? I'm always working against tight deadlines.
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Ruby Knight
•It's basically instant - just upload your PDFs and get results in seconds. Much faster than manually cross-checking everything.
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Logan Stewart
One thing to watch out for with restaurant equipment - make sure your collateral description is specific enough but not too specific. Section 102 talks about sufficiency of collateral descriptions and you want to capture all the equipment without being so detailed that you miss something. I usually go with something like 'all restaurant equipment, kitchen equipment, furniture, fixtures, and inventory now owned or hereafter acquired' to cast a wide net.
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Owen Jenkins
•That's helpful. I was getting too specific with individual pieces of equipment which made the description really long and potentially incomplete.
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Mikayla Brown
•Broad descriptions are usually better for commercial equipment that changes frequently. You want to make sure your security interest covers equipment they buy later too.
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Isaac Wright
•Just remember that if you go too broad, you might capture personal property that should be excluded. Balance is key.
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Lucy Lam
I'm new to UCC filings and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently dealing with a similar situation where my borrower's LLC name appears differently on various documents. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like the absolute key is matching exactly what's in the Secretary of State database, character for character. Can someone clarify - when you say "organizational documents," are we always referring to the original articles of incorporation/organization, or should I be looking at the most recent amendments or certificates of good standing? I want to make sure I understand the hierarchy of which document takes precedence for the debtor name under section 102.
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