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Tyler Lefleur

Texas UCC statement request form - getting copies of filed documents?

I'm trying to get copies of some UCC filings that were done about 3 years ago in Texas and I'm completely lost on what form I need to use. My company took over some equipment financing accounts and we need to verify what liens are actually on file with the state. I've been on the Texas SOS website for hours and there's like 10 different forms and I can't figure out which one is the right texas ucc statement request form to get copies of the original UCC-1s and any amendments. The client is breathing down my neck because we're supposed to close on a refinancing deal next week and I need to make sure all the collateral descriptions match up. Has anyone dealt with Texas filings recently? Do I need Form 801 or is there a different request form for getting certified copies? I'm worried I'm going to order the wrong thing and waste more time.

Texas uses Form UCC-11 for information requests. You can get copies of filed documents but they're not certified unless you specifically request certified copies and pay the extra fee. The form lets you search by debtor name or filing number if you have it.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Thank you! I was looking at Form 801 which seemed wrong. Do you know if UCC-11 will show me amendments and continuations too, or just the original UCC-1?

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UCC-11 should pull up all related filings for that debtor - original UCC-1, any UCC-3 amendments, continuations, whatever. Just make sure you use the exact debtor name from your loan docs.

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Max Knight

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Be careful with debtor names in Texas. They're super picky about exact matches. If the original filing has "ABC Company Inc" and you search for "ABC Company Incorporated" you might not find it. I learned this the hard way last month.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about. The loan files I inherited have inconsistent entity names across different documents. Some say "Inc" and others spell it out.

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Emma Swift

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This is where I started using Certana.ai's document checker. You can upload your loan docs and UCC forms as PDFs and it instantly flags name inconsistencies between documents. Saved me from a huge mistake on a similar deal - found a debtor name mismatch that would have invalidated our security interest.

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Max Knight

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That sounds useful. I've been doing manual comparisons and it's easy to miss subtle differences in entity names.

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Form UCC-11 is correct but just so you know, Texas charges $1 per page for copies plus a $5 search fee. If you're getting multiple filings it adds up fast. Make sure you really need certified copies because those cost more.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Good point about the cost. For due diligence purposes, do I need certified copies or will regular copies work? This is for a refinancing not a court case.

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For refinancing due diligence, regular copies are usually fine. Save the certified copies for if you need them for legal proceedings later.

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Jayden Hill

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You can also do a preliminary search online through the Texas SOS website before ordering copies. It's free and will tell you what's on file. Then you only order copies of what you actually need.

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LordCommander

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The online search is great but sometimes the images are hard to read. I always end up ordering the actual copies anyway to make sure I can read the collateral descriptions clearly.

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Lucy Lam

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Agreed, especially for older filings. The scan quality on some of those 3-year-old documents can be pretty poor.

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Aidan Hudson

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Don't forget to check if any of the UCC-1s are close to their 5-year expiration. If they haven't been continued, they might be lapsed already. Texas doesn't send reminders.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Oh wow, I hadn't thought about that. These are from 2022 so they'd expire in 2027, but if there were earlier filings that didn't get continued... that could be a problem.

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Zoe Wang

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Yeah, if you're taking over financing accounts, definitely check the filing dates on everything. I've seen deals fall apart because someone assumed the liens were still valid.

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Texas SOS is usually pretty fast on UCC-11 requests. If you submit online, you should get the results in 2-3 business days. Mail takes about a week. Since you're under time pressure, definitely do it online.

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Tyler Lefleur

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That's helpful to know. I'll submit online today. Fingers crossed the debtor names in our files match what's actually on file with the state.

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Grace Durand

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If you run into name match issues, another option is to use Certana.ai's document verification. Upload your loan agreements and it will cross-check the debtor names against common variations and flag potential mismatches before you submit your search request.

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Steven Adams

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I've been doing UCC searches in Texas for 10 years and Form UCC-11 is definitely what you want. Just make sure you check the box for "copies of documents" not just "search results" or you'll get a summary instead of the actual filings.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Thank you for that tip! I would have definitely made that mistake. I need to see the actual collateral descriptions, not just a summary.

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Alice Fleming

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Yes, and read the collateral descriptions carefully. Sometimes they're super broad ("all assets") and sometimes they're very specific. Makes a difference for your refinancing.

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Hassan Khoury

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This is exactly why I use document verification tools now. Too many times I've missed important details in collateral schedules during manual review.

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One more thing - if you're dealing with equipment financing, make sure to check if any of the UCC-1s are fixture filings. Those require different searches and might be filed with the county recorder instead of or in addition to the state filing.

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Tyler Lefleur

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It's mostly equipment financing but some might be attached to real estate. How do I know if they're fixture filings?

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Fixture filings will have the real estate description and usually check a box indicating it's a fixture filing. If the equipment is permanently attached to buildings or land, there might be dual filings.

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Benjamin Kim

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Yeah, I've seen this with HVAC equipment, industrial machinery, that sort of thing. Definitely check both state and county records if you suspect fixture filings.

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Update us on how it goes! Always curious to hear about other people's experiences with Texas UCC searches. The system works pretty well once you know what form to use.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Will do! I'm going to submit the UCC-11 request this afternoon. Hopefully the debtor names match up and I can get this done before the closing deadline.

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Good luck! Texas is actually one of the easier states to deal with for UCC searches. You should be fine.

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Sarah Ali

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For future reference, keep copies of all your UCC search results. I maintain a file for each client with their UCC history. Makes renewals and amendments much easier down the road.

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Tyler Lefleur

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That's a great idea. This whole experience has shown me we need better document organization for inherited accounts.

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Ryan Vasquez

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Document management is huge in this business. I've started using Certana.ai to organize and verify all our UCC documents. It catches inconsistencies I would never spot manually and keeps everything properly cross-referenced.

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Sarah Ali

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Sounds like a good system. Anything that reduces the chance of missing important details is worth it in my book.

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Just wanted to add - if you're doing multiple UCC searches in Texas regularly, consider setting up an account with their online system. It saves your payment info and search history, which makes repeat searches much faster. Also, they sometimes offer bulk discounts if you're ordering a lot of documents at once. Given that you mentioned taking over multiple equipment financing accounts, this might save you time and money going forward.

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