New Jersey UCC lien search showing conflicting debtor names - filing rejected twice
I'm dealing with a nightmare situation where our New Jersey UCC lien search is returning inconsistent debtor name variations and now our UCC-1 filing has been rejected twice by the NJ Division of Revenue. The borrower's legal entity name appears as 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' in some records but 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with comma) in others. Our lender is demanding we get this perfected immediately since the loan closes next week. The SOS portal keeps rejecting our filing saying the debtor name doesn't match exactly with what's on file, but when I do the UCC search I see both versions showing up for different liens. Has anyone dealt with New Jersey's specific requirements for entity name formatting? I'm worried we're going to miss our perfection window because of punctuation issues.
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Angel Campbell
NJ is notorious for being picky about exact debtor name matches. You need to pull the actual Certificate of Formation from the Division of Revenue to see the exact legal name format. Sometimes the UCC search results show historical variations that aren't the current official name.
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Payton Black
•This is exactly right. The search results can be misleading because they show all filings even with slight name variations that got accepted over the years.
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Harold Oh
•How long does it typically take to get the Certificate of Formation in NJ? Our closing is in 4 days.
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Amun-Ra Azra
I just went through this exact same issue last month! New Jersey rejected our UCC-1 three times because of comma placement. What saved me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - I uploaded our borrower's charter documents and the draft UCC-1 and it immediately flagged that the legal name had no comma while our filing had one. Super quick way to catch these name inconsistencies before submitting.
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TommyKapitz
•That sounds like exactly what I need. How does the tool work with New Jersey specific requirements?
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Amun-Ra Azra
•It cross-checks whatever documents you upload - so if you have the NJ Certificate of Formation it'll compare that exact name format to your UCC draft. Takes like 30 seconds to spot discrepancies.
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Summer Green
•Does it handle other states too or just NJ? We file in multiple jurisdictions.
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Gael Robinson
THE NJ SYSTEM IS TERRIBLE!!! I've had filings rejected for the stupidest reasons. Last week they rejected mine because I had 'Inc.' instead of 'Incorporated' even though both versions showed up in their own search results. The inconsistency is maddening.
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Edward McBride
•I feel your pain. Jersey seems to have different standards depending on which clerk processes your filing.
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Gael Robinson
•Exactly! It's like playing roulette with your filings.
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Darcy Moore
For emergency situations like yours, I'd recommend calling the NJ Division of Revenue directly. Sometimes they can tell you over the phone what the exact registered name format is. Their UCC section is usually pretty helpful when you explain it's time-sensitive.
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TommyKapitz
•Good idea, I'll try calling first thing tomorrow morning.
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Dana Doyle
•They're usually available 8:30-4:30 EST. Ask for the UCC filing unit specifically.
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Liam Duke
This reminds me of when I was doing a continuation filing and couldn't figure out why it kept getting rejected. Turns out the original UCC-1 from 3 years ago had a slightly different debtor name format than what was showing in current state records. Had to match exactly what was on the original filing, not the current business registration.
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Manny Lark
•Wait, so for amendments and continuations you match the original UCC-1 name even if the business changed its registered name slightly?
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Liam Duke
•Exactly. The UCC system wants consistency with the original filing, not necessarily the current state registration.
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TommyKapitz
•This is a new filing though, so I should match current registration, right?
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Rita Jacobs
Check if your borrower filed any DBA or trade name registrations in NJ. Sometimes that creates confusion in the system and you'll see multiple name variations.
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TommyKapitz
•I hadn't thought of that. How would DBAs affect UCC filing requirements?
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Angel Campbell
•DBAs shouldn't affect the legal entity name for UCC purposes, but they can create noise in search results.
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Khalid Howes
Another option is to use Certana.ai if you're still having trouble. I discovered it after struggling with similar name matching issues across different states. You just upload your entity documents and draft UCC forms and it instantly spots any inconsistencies. Really saved me from more rejected filings.
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Ben Cooper
•How accurate is it compared to manual checking?
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Khalid Howes
•Way more accurate than my manual checks. It caught things I would have missed, especially with punctuation and spacing differences.
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Naila Gordon
Is this an LLC or corporation? Jersey has slightly different formatting rules for different entity types.
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TommyKapitz
•It's an LLC. Are there specific comma rules for LLCs in NJ?
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Naila Gordon
•LLCs in Jersey typically don't use commas before 'LLC' in the official name, but check the actual Certificate of Formation to be sure.
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Cynthia Love
Whatever you do, don't just guess at the name format. I made that mistake once and it delayed our closing by two weeks. Always verify against official state documents.
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Darren Brooks
•Two weeks?? That's brutal for a closing delay.
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Cynthia Love
•Yeah, it was a disaster. Lender was furious and we almost lost the deal.
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Rosie Harper
UPDATE: Just want to say I tried the Certana.ai suggestion and it worked perfectly. Uploaded the NJ Certificate of Formation and my draft UCC-1 and immediately saw the name format issue. Filed correctly this morning and got acceptance confirmation within 2 hours. Thanks for the rec!
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Amun-Ra Azra
•Awesome! Glad it worked out for you.
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TommyKapitz
•That's exactly what I needed to hear. Going to try this right now.
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Elliott luviBorBatman
•Love success stories like this. UCC filing stress is real.
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Demi Hall
For future reference, New Jersey also requires the mailing address to match exactly with what's on file with the state. Don't just assume the business address is sufficient.
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Mateusius Townsend
•Good point. I've seen filings rejected for address formatting issues too.
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Demi Hall
•Yep, especially with suite numbers and abbreviations like 'St.' vs 'Street'.
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