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Collins Angel

KY UCC continuation deadline missed - any options left?

So I'm dealing with a nightmare situation here. Had a UCC-1 that I filed back in 2020 for equipment financing on some manufacturing gear. The 5-year mark is coming up fast and I completely spaced on filing the continuation. Just realized yesterday that I'm already 3 weeks past the deadline. The original filing shows it lapses next month. Is there any way to salvage this or am I looking at having to start over with a whole new UCC-1? The collateral is worth about $180K so this isn't exactly pocket change we're talking about. Has anyone dealt with KY UCC continuation issues before? I'm panicking a bit here because this could mess up our entire credit facility.

Marcelle Drum

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Oh man, that's rough. I think once the deadline passes you might be out of luck on the continuation route. Kentucky follows the standard UCC rules pretty strictly from what I remember. You probably need to file a new UCC-1 if you want to maintain perfection. But definitely check with someone who knows KY specific rules better than me.

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Tate Jensen

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Actually that's not quite right. You can still file a continuation even after the deadline, but it won't relate back to the original filing date. So there might be a gap in perfection which could be problematic depending on other creditors.

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Adaline Wong

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Wait, are we talking about Kentucky state filings or federal? Because the rules can be different and I don't want to give bad advice here.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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I've been through this exact scenario in Kentucky. The continuation window is pretty strict - you need to file within 6 months before expiration. Since you're past that window, your UCC-1 is going to lapse. Your best bet is to file a new UCC-1 immediately to re-perfect your security interest. Yes, there will be a gap, but that's better than having no perfection at all. Make sure your new filing has the exact same debtor name and collateral description to avoid any confusion.

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Collins Angel

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Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Do you know if there are any priority issues I need to worry about with the gap? We don't have any other secured creditors that I know of, but still concerned.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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The gap could potentially allow another creditor to jump ahead of you in priority if they file during that window. But if there are no other secured parties, you should be fine. Just get that new UCC-1 filed ASAP.

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Actually had a similar issue last year and used Certana.ai to double-check all my document consistency before refiling. You can upload your original UCC-1 and the new one to make sure debtor names match exactly - saved me from a filing rejection that would have cost more time.

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Peyton Clarke

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This is exactly why I set calendar reminders 8 months before expiration. These deadlines sneak up on you! But yeah, new UCC-1 is your only option now. At least Kentucky's online system is pretty user-friendly for new filings.

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Vince Eh

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Good point about the calendar reminders. I use a spreadsheet to track all my UCC expirations now after missing one a few years back.

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Collins Angel

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Definitely learned my lesson on the reminder system. This was an expensive mistake to make.

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Hold up - are you sure about the timeline? KY UCC continuations can be filed up to 6 months BEFORE expiration, not after. If your filing lapses next month and you're 3 weeks past what you thought was the deadline, you might still be in the window. Check your math on the dates.

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Collins Angel

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Let me double-check the original filing date. I thought I had calculated it right but maybe I'm confusing myself with the stress of this situation.

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Yeah definitely verify those dates. I've seen people panic over deadlines they hadn't actually missed yet. The UCC filing search should show you the exact lapse date.

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Ezra Beard

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This is why I always run my docs through something like Certana.ai before filing - it catches date calculation errors and name mismatches that could cause rejections. Better safe than sorry on these critical filings.

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UGH the Kentucky SOS system drives me crazy with their date formatting. Sometimes it's MM/DD/YYYY and sometimes it's different. Make sure you're reading the lapse date correctly on your search results.

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Tell me about it! I've submitted filings with the wrong date format before and had them rejected. Such a pain.

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Aria Khan

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At least they email you about rejections now. Used to be you'd find out weeks later when you called to check on status.

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Everett Tutum

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I deal with Kentucky UCC filings regularly. If you're truly past the continuation deadline, file a new UCC-1 immediately. Use the same debtor name exactly as it appears on your original filing. Any variation could cause matching issues later. Also consider whether you need to file terminations for the lapsed filing once the new one is in place.

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Collins Angel

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Good point about the termination. I hadn't thought about that cleanup step. Will the lapsed filing automatically drop off or do I need to actively terminate it?

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Everett Tutum

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Lapsed filings will eventually drop from active searches but they stay in the system. It's cleaner to file a termination once your new UCC-1 is active, but not legally required if it's already lapsed.

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Sunny Wang

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Been there! Last year I thought I missed a continuation deadline and was freaking out. Turned out I had miscalculated and still had 2 months left. Double-check your math before you panic-file a new UCC-1.

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Smart advice. I always count backwards from the lapse date just to be sure I have the timeline right.

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Yeah, and if you're unsure about document consistency when refiling, tools like Certana.ai can verify your debtor names match between old and new filings. Just upload both PDFs and it flags any discrepancies automatically.

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Melissa Lin

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Whatever you do, don't wait any longer to act. Even if you have to file a new UCC-1, do it today. Every day you wait is another day someone else could potentially file ahead of you. Kentucky processes electronic filings pretty quickly so you should have confirmation within 24 hours.

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Collins Angel

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to stop overthinking this and just get the new filing submitted today. Thanks everyone for the reality check.

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Good call. Better to have a gap in perfection than no perfection at all. And next time set those calendar alerts!

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Romeo Quest

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Definitely. And if you want to be extra careful about the refiling, run it through a document checker first. I use Certana.ai to make sure everything matches up correctly before I submit - saves the headache of dealing with rejections.

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