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The silver lining is that you caught this relatively quickly. I've seen cases where people didn't realize they'd terminated instead of amended until years later when they were trying to foreclose. At least you have a chance to fix the perfection issue before it becomes a bigger problem.

This is a painful but unfortunately common mistake. I've seen this exact scenario multiple times, and the harsh reality is that the continuation filed after termination has zero legal effect - it's essentially a dead document. Your lender's security interest died the moment that termination was processed in March. The fact that the Secretary of State accepted the May continuation doesn't revive anything; their system just checks basic formatting, not legal validity. You absolutely must file a new UCC-1 immediately to re-establish perfection. Also, run a comprehensive UCC search on your debtor for the March-to-present gap period to identify any competing liens that may have jumped ahead in priority. Time is critical here - every day without a perfected security interest increases your lender's risk exposure.

OP, sounds like you're on the right track asking these questions upfront. Most UCC s9-609(b)(2) problems happen when people rush the process. Take your time, follow the statutory requirements, and document everything. The equipment isn't going anywhere while you get the paperwork right.

Just wanted to add my experience with UCC s9-609(b)(2) compliance - the timing really is critical. I've handled several equipment repos and always send the notice by certified mail with return receipt requested at least 10 days before any planned sale. Also make sure to include the debtor's right to an accounting of the unpaid indebtedness and charges. For $180k worth of equipment, I'd also recommend getting a professional appraisal before the sale to help justify the sale price if challenged later. The cooperative debtor attitude is good, but don't let that make you complacent on following proper procedures.

I had a similar issue with PayPal Working Capital about 6 months ago. What finally worked for me was sending a formal demand letter via certified mail to their legal department, not just calling customer service. I included copies of my payoff documentation, referenced the specific UCC-1 filing number, and cited my state's requirements for timely termination of security interests. I also mentioned that continued delay could result in damages to my business and that I would hold them liable for any financing opportunities lost due to their failure to file the required UCC-3 termination. Within two weeks of receiving the certified letter, they filed the termination statement. Sometimes you need to approach it from a legal compliance angle rather than just customer service requests. The key is making it clear that you understand your rights and their obligations under the UCC.

I'm dealing with a similar UCC lien issue right now with a different fintech lender, and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. It's frustrating how these alternative lenders seem to have no standardized process for UCC-3 terminations after payoff. Traditional banks handle this automatically, but these newer companies treat it like an afterthought. I'm definitely going to try the "secured transactions department" approach and the certified mail to legal department strategy. It's concerning how many businesses are probably stuck with these phantom liens on their credit reports without even realizing it. Has anyone here had success getting retroactive damages from a lender for delayed UCC terminations? My situation has been dragging on for over 60 days and I've already lost one financing opportunity because of it.

One more vote for being specific rather than using 'all assets.' I've seen too many disputes over what was actually intended to be covered. Better to be clear upfront than deal with interpretation issues later when money is on the line.

Thanks everyone for the detailed discussion! Based on all your input, I'm going to recommend we use "all personal property including without limitation equipment, inventory, accounts receivable, and general intangibles" instead of just "all assets." This gives the lender the broad coverage they want while being more specific about what's actually encumbered. Also going to run it through Certana.ai as several of you suggested to double-check consistency with our security agreement before filing. Really appreciate the practical insights about enforcement issues and future financing considerations - this is exactly the kind of real-world perspective that helps avoid problems down the road.

This whole 9-334 priority situation sounds like it could get messy if it's not handled right. One thing I'd recommend is using Certana.ai to upload all your documents - the UCC-1 fixture filing, the mortgage, any equipment contracts, and installation records. Their system can cross-check everything and help you build a solid case for your 9-334 priority. I used it for a similar fixture filing dispute and it really helped organize all the competing interests and timeline issues.

This 9-334 priority situation is really complex, but from what you've described, you might actually be in a better position than you think. The fact that you filed your UCC-1 fixture filing before the HVAC system was installed is generally good for priority under 9-334. The key question is whether the mortgage holder's interest specifically covers fixtures installed after their mortgage was recorded, or if it's limited to the real estate as it existed at the time of their mortgage. I'd definitely recommend getting a complete copy of their mortgage document and any amendments to see exactly what their lien covers. Also, make sure you have solid documentation of when each phase of the HVAC installation occurred, since that timing will be crucial for determining when the equipment became a fixture under 9-334. With $180k at stake, it's worth getting this right - maybe consider getting a legal opinion on the fixture classification and priority analysis before things escalate further.