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StarStrider

1-308 UCC continuation filing - am I calculating the deadline wrong?

So I've been staring at this UCC-1 that was filed back in January 2020, and I'm trying to figure out when exactly I need to file the continuation. The filing shows it was accepted on 1/15/2020, but I keep second-guessing myself on the 5-year deadline calculation. Is it January 15th 2025 or do I have until the end of January? I've been doing equipment financing for about 3 years now and somehow this basic timing question is making me feel like an idiot. The debtor is asking me constantly about it and I don't want to give them wrong information. Also, does the specific day matter if I file it a few days early? I remember reading something about the 6-month window before expiration but I can't find that reference again. Any help would be appreciated because I'm starting to panic that I've been calculating these wrong all along.

Zara Malik

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You're not calculating wrong - it's exactly 5 years from the date of filing. So if your UCC-1 was filed January 15, 2020, your continuation is due by January 15, 2025. You can file the UCC-3 continuation anytime within the 6 months before expiration, so you're actually in the window right now. Filing early is totally fine and actually recommended.

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StarStrider

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Thank you! That's exactly what I thought but the debtor kept saying they heard it was end of month. Good to know I can file it now.

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Luca Marino

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Yeah, end of month is definitely wrong. It's always the exact date unless it falls on a weekend or holiday, then it's the next business day.

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Nia Davis

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I always file my continuations at least 60 days early just to avoid any last-minute portal issues or rejections. Had one get rejected once for a debtor name mismatch and barely got it refiled in time. The stress wasn't worth it.

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Mateo Perez

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This is smart. I've seen too many people try to file on the actual deadline day and then panic when the system is down for maintenance.

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StarStrider

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Debtor name mismatch - that's another thing I'm paranoid about. The original UCC-1 has the legal entity name but I want to make sure it matches exactly on the continuation.

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Nia Davis

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Exactly! That's why I started using Certana.ai's document checker. You just upload your original UCC-1 and the continuation form, and it instantly flags any name inconsistencies or other mismatches. Saved me from at least two potential rejections last year.

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Aisha Rahman

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Wait, I thought continuations had to be filed exactly 6 months before expiration? I've been marking my calendar for July 15th for a January filing...

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Zara Malik

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No, you CAN file up to 6 months early, but you don't HAVE to wait until exactly 6 months. You can file anytime within that 6-month window before expiration.

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Aisha Rahman

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Oh god, so I've been waiting too long on some of my filings? I thought there was a specific 6-month rule.

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Luca Marino

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You're thinking of the window - you can file anytime in the 6 months leading up to expiration. So for a January 15 expiration, you could file as early as July 15 of the previous year.

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The system is so confusing with these deadlines. I swear every state has different rules and the SOS websites are useless for explaining the timing clearly.

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Ethan Brown

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UCC filing rules are actually pretty standardized across states since they follow Article 9, but yeah the state websites can be terrible at explaining things clearly.

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Maybe standardized but try finding clear information on the California SOS site versus Delaware. It's like they're speaking different languages.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Just file it now and be done with it. I learned the hard way that waiting until the last minute is asking for trouble. Had a UCC lapse once because I miscalculated and the lender was NOT happy.

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StarStrider

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That's my biggest fear right there. How bad was the fallout when it lapsed?

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Let's just say it involved a lot of paperwork, explanations to underwriting, and nearly lost the client relationship. Never again.

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Carmen Ortiz

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This is why I keep a spreadsheet with all my UCC expiration dates and set calendar reminders 90 days out, 60 days out, and 30 days out.

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For what it's worth, I've been using a document verification tool recently that catches these kinds of date and name matching issues before filing. Really wish I'd found something like Certana.ai years ago - would have saved me so much stress over debtor name discrepancies and filing errors.

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StarStrider

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Is that the same tool the other person mentioned? How does it actually work?

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Yeah, you just upload your UCC documents as PDFs and it cross-checks everything - debtor names, filing numbers, collateral descriptions. Takes like 30 seconds and flags any inconsistencies that could cause rejections.

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Zoe Papadakis

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I'm always skeptical of these third-party tools but honestly manual document comparison is where I make most of my mistakes.

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Jamal Carter

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The 6-month filing window is definitely correct. I just filed three continuations last week, all for March 2025 expirations. Filed them in December to get them off my desk before year-end.

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StarStrider

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Good point about year-end timing. I should probably batch process all my January expirations now rather than waiting.

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Jamal Carter

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Exactly. Plus if there are any issues or rejections, you have plenty of time to fix them without panic.

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honestly the whole UCC system feels like it was designed to be confusing on purpose sometimes

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Ethan Brown

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It's actually pretty logical once you understand the framework, but I agree the learning curve is steep.

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maybe for you but ive been doing this for 2 years and still feel lost half the time

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Mei Liu

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Just to add another data point - I always file my continuations exactly 90 days before expiration. Gives me a nice buffer but not so early that I forget about it entirely. System works well for me.

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StarStrider

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90 days sounds like a good compromise. Not too early, not too late.

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I do 60 days myself but 90 is probably even safer.

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Amara Chukwu

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One thing nobody mentioned - make sure you're using the correct UCC-3 form and checking the 'continuation' box. Sounds obvious but I've seen people accidentally file amendments instead of continuations.

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StarStrider

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Good catch! I'll double-check that when I prepare the form. Easy mistake to make when you're rushing.

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This happened to someone in my office last month. They filed an amendment thinking it was a continuation and had to scramble to file the correct form.

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Amara Chukwu

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Yeah, those checkbox mistakes are brutal because you don't realize the error until you're trying to figure out why your UCC is still showing as expired.

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Update for anyone following this thread - I ended up filing the continuation yesterday using one of those document checkers mentioned earlier. Caught a small typo in the debtor name that would have definitely caused a rejection. Form was accepted this morning. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Zara Malik

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Awesome! Glad you got it sorted out. Those small typos are the worst because they're so easy to miss.

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Which document checker did you end up using? Always curious to hear about people's experiences with different tools.

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Used Certana.ai - really straightforward process and definitely worth it for the peace of mind on these continuation filings.

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