Should Social Security survivor benefits in a Representative Payee account be reported on FAFSA?
My stepdaughter receives Social Security survivor benefits since her mom passed away 6 years ago. I've been setting aside about 30% of these payments in a Representative Payee account that lists both our names (mine as the representative payee, hers as beneficiary). The account has grown to around $18,700 now. I'm totally confused about how to report this on the FAFSA. Since these are federal benefits specifically meant for her support and education, do they need to be reported as an asset? The money technically belongs to her but I'm the custodian managing it for her benefit until she's 18. Does this count as my parental asset or her student asset? Or is it exempt because it's federal benefits? I've read conflicting things - some say all savings accounts with the student's name must be reported, others mention exemptions for certain federal benefits. Has anyone navigated this specific situation with Social Security survivor benefits in a Rep Payee account?
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GalaxyGuardian
I had this exact problem 2 years ago with my son's survivor benefits from his dad. I called FAFSA and was on hold for 2+ hrs before getting disconnected THREE TIMES!!! It was SO frustrating!!!! Finally someone told me that because it's a representative payee account, it's considered YOUR asset (the parent) not the student's asset. parent assets only count at like 5.6% against aid vs student assets at 20% so thats better for ur aid calculation.
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Keisha Robinson
•Thanks for the info! So if I'm understanding right, I should report this on the parent section rather than the student section? That does make sense since I control the account. Did they tell you anything about whether these funds are treated differently than regular savings since they're federal benefits?
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Paolo Ricci
This is a common question that creates confusion. Here's what you need to know: The Representative Payee account should be reported as a PARENT asset on the FAFSA, not a student asset. While the funds are technically for your stepdaughter's benefit, you maintain legal control as the representative payee, which is the determining factor for FAFSA reporting. The source of the funds (Social Security) doesn't exempt them from reporting. The FAFSA looks at who controls the asset, not where the money originally came from. Parent assets are assessed at a much lower rate (maximum 5.64%) compared to student assets (20%), so this is actually beneficial for your aid calculation. Make sure you include it in the "Cash, Savings, and Checking" section of the parent assets.
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Keisha Robinson
•Thank you for this clear explanation! That makes sense. One follow-up question - when my stepdaughter turns 18 next year but is still in high school, does the account automatically switch to being considered her asset? At that point she'll legally have access to the remaining funds, even though they'll still be in the same account.
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Amina Toure
my brother got ss benefits after our dad died and we thought we didnt have to report it because its government money but financial aid office said we were wrong and made us fix our fafsa. realy messed up our aid package that year
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Keisha Robinson
•Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! Did they make you report the monthly payments, the saved amount, or both?
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Paolo Ricci
To answer your follow-up question - yes, when your stepdaughter turns 18, the account would typically become her asset for FAFSA purposes since she'll gain legal control of the funds. This is why many families with Representative Payee accounts face a decision point as the student approaches 18. For current monthly Social Security survivor benefits (not the saved amounts): these count as untaxed income on the FAFSA and must be reported in the "Untaxed Income" section. This applies to benefits received in the prior-prior year being reported on the FAFSA. For the saved amounts: as others mentioned, this is currently a parent asset, but will become a student asset once she gains control at 18. One strategy some families consider is using the saved Representative Payee funds for permitted educational expenses before completing the FAFSA. This might include purchasing a required computer, paying for college testing and applications, or other qualified educational expenses that the Social Security Administration allows.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•I had the EXACT same issue but could never get anyone on the phone at FSA. I literally waited 4 hours one day before giving up. I eventually used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get connected to a live agent without the wait. They have this service where they wait on hold for you and call when an agent is on the line. Their video shows how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ The agent confirmed everything said above - Rep Payee is a parent asset until the child turns 18 and gains control, then it becomes a student asset. Also confirmed the monthly benefits are reported as untaxed income. Saved me so much confusion!
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Natasha Volkova
Wait I'm confused...are we talking about the savings from the benefits or the actual monthly payments? Aren't those different things on FAFSA?
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Paolo Ricci
•You're absolutely right to make that distinction. There are two separate issues here: 1. The SAVED money in the Representative Payee account is reported as an ASSET (currently a parent asset since the parent is the Rep Payee) 2. The MONTHLY Social Security survivor benefits are reported as UNTAXED INCOME on the FAFSA for the prior-prior year They're reported in different sections of the FAFSA and impact the SAI calculation differently.
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Javier Torres
This is SO STUPID!!! Social Security benefits are supposed to HELP children who lost a parent, not PUNISH them by reducing financial aid!!! These benefits shouldn't be counted at all. The system is completely broken. My daughter's college fund from her grandparents cost us $10,000 in financial aid. EVERYTHING counts against you no matter how hard you try to prepare. 😡
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Amina Toure
•it sucks. my whole family feels the same way. you get help from one government program and another one takes it away. makes no sense
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Emma Davis
FAFSA professional here. Let me clarify this situation definitively: 1. Representative Payee accounts are reported as parent assets until the beneficiary gains legal control, typically at age 18, at which point they become student assets. 2. The assessment rate for parent assets maxes out at 5.64% vs 20% for student assets in the SAI formula. 3. Monthly Social Security survivor benefits received by the student in the prior-prior year are reported as untaxed income to the student under "Student's Untaxed Income". 4. There is no special exemption for Social Security benefits or their accumulated savings in a Representative Payee account on the FAFSA. 5. Important note: For the 2024-2025 FAFSA, there will be an increased Asset Protection Allowance for parents, which may shield some of these assets from being counted, depending on the parents' age and financial situation. Strategies to consider: spending down the account on qualified educational expenses prior to filing FAFSA, transferring the funds to a 529 account (which would still be a parent asset but is designated for education), or using the funds for the student's first year expenses before filing subsequent FAFSAs.
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Keisha Robinson
•Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation! This really helps. I never considered transferring funds to a 529. Since we're looking at colleges now for next fall, would that even be worth doing at this point? Or is it too late to get any tax advantages?
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Emma Davis
Regarding your question about 529 transfers - it's likely too late for significant tax advantages if you're applying for the 2025-2026 academic year, as you'd be filing your FAFSA soon using 2023 tax information as the base year. However, if your stepdaughter will be attending college for multiple years, establishing a 529 now could still benefit years 2-4 of her education. A potentially better strategy in your specific timeframe would be to use some of the Representative Payee funds for legitimate educational expenses now, before filing the FAFSA. This could include: 1. ACT/SAT testing and preparation 2. College application fees 3. College visits and related travel expenses 4. Technology required for education (computer, software, etc.) 5. Any required educational equipment or materials for her current studies All of these would be permitted uses of Social Security survivor benefits, would reduce the reportable asset amount, and would pay for expenses you'd likely incur anyway.
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Keisha Robinson
•This is extremely helpful! We've been hesitant to spend from this account, trying to save it for college, but using it for these pre-college expenses makes perfect sense. She definitely needs a laptop for senior year/college, and we have several campus visits planned. Thank you so much for this practical advice!
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CosmicCaptain
Does anyone know if this same rule applies to VA survivors benefits? My kids get those and I've been saving them in a separate account too...
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GalaxyGuardian
•pretty sure its the same for all gov benefits. my nephew gets VA benefits and my sister had to report them the same way on FAFSA. the whole system is messed up
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