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Mia Alvarez

First-time FAFSA parent with 2025 college freshman - basic education needed

My daughter will be starting college in September 2025, and I feel completely lost about this whole FAFSA process. I've heard it's changing, and there's this new SAI score instead of EFC? I don't even know when we're supposed to apply or what documents I need to gather. As a single mom working two jobs, I'm worried about missing deadlines or making mistakes that could cost her financial aid. Can someone walk me through the absolute basics? When should we start the application for Fall 2025? What tax documents will I need? And how does this new SAI calculation work compared to the old system?

Carter Holmes

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Hey there! You're smart to start learning about this now instead of waiting until the last minute. For your daughter starting in Fall 2025, you'll need to complete the 2025-2026 FAFSA, which should open on December 1, 2024. The basic documents you'll need: - Your 2023 tax return (they use prior-prior year) - W-2 forms from 2023 - Records of any untaxed income - Current bank statements - Investment records (if applicable) And yes, the SAI (Student Aid Index) replaced the old EFC (Expected Family Contribution). The calculation is similar but more streamlined. It still looks at your income, assets, family size, and how many family members are in college. The biggest difference is that the SAI can actually go negative (down to -1500) which helps identify the students with the highest need for Pell Grants and other aid.

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Mia Alvarez

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation! I had no idea they use tax returns from 2 years prior - that's actually a relief since my 2023 taxes are already done. Just to clarify, when you say December 1, 2024, does that mean we should apply right when it opens? Are there advantages to applying early?

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Sophia Long

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im in the same boat - my son starts colege next fall too! did you hear about the fafsa snafus this past year? i heard some ppl didnt get their aid packages until RIGHT before school started bc of all the delays with the new system. super nerve wracking

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Mia Alvarez

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Oh no, I hadn't heard about that! That's exactly the kind of thing that worries me. Did they eventually fix the system issues? I really can't afford to miss out on any potential aid for my daughter.

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As someone who just went through the whole FAFSA nightmare with my son this year, my biggest advice is APPLY AS EARLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE! The new system had so many glitches, and we ended up having to call the Federal Student Aid office like 9 times to get things straightened out. And EACH TIME it was 2+ hours on hold only to get disconnected. I nearly lost my mind!!! The SAI calculation is supposed to be more "fair" but honestly it's still confusing as heck. Just know that they're going to ask about every penny you've ever earned or saved, and somehow they'll still expect you to contribute more than you can actually afford. 🙄

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Mia Alvarez

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Thanks for the heads up about the wait times. That sounds absolutely awful - I definitely don't have hours to waste on hold between my jobs. Did you find any tricks for getting through to an actual person?

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Lucas Bey

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One important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: start gathering your FSA IDs now! Both you AND your daughter will need separate FSA IDs to access and sign the FAFSA. Getting these set up ahead of time will save you headaches later. Regarding the SAI calculation, the new formula removes some of the questions about small businesses and family farms that used to penalize some families. They've also changed how they treat multiple students in college at once. Under the old system, having multiple kids in college was a big advantage for aid eligibility. The new system reduces this benefit somewhat. Also, the income protection allowance has increased, meaning more of your income is shielded from the calculation. This is especially helpful for lower and middle-income families.

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Mia Alvarez

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Thank you for this detailed information! I definitely wouldn't have known about needing separate FSA IDs. I'll get those set up soon. The income protection allowance increase sounds promising. Do you know roughly what income levels benefit most from the new SAI calculation versus the old EFC system?

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Don't get too excited about that income protection allowance - the system is STILL rigged against working parents!!! I make about $58k a year as a single mom, thought I'd get decent aid with the new system, and my SAI was still over $14,000!!! Like WHERE am I supposed to find an extra $14K per year??? The whole system is a joke and colleges just use it to extract as much money as possible from struggling families.

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Sophia Long

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omg this is my fear too!! i keep hearing the same thing from other parents. like the gov thinks we have all this extra $ lying around just because we work hard and try to save a little???

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Carter Holmes

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To answer your question about applying early - yes, absolutely apply as close to the December 1 opening as possible. Many colleges have priority deadlines (often February 1 or March 1), and some state grants are first-come, first-served until the money runs out. About the income levels that benefit most from the new system - generally families making under $60,000 with typical assets may see more favorable results, especially if they qualify for the simplified formula. The maximum Pell Grant has also increased to about $7,400 for the highest-need students. One other thing I'd recommend is checking if any of your daughter's potential colleges require the CSS Profile in addition to the FAFSA. It's a more detailed financial aid form used by about 200 mostly private colleges to distribute their institutional aid. It has a different formula than the FAFSA.

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Mia Alvarez

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This is super helpful information. I'll definitely aim to apply in early December then. I'll also look into which colleges on my daughter's list might require that CSS Profile - I hadn't heard of that at all!

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my cousin said dont bother reporting any retirement accounts on fafsa, they dont count them anyway and it just complicates things

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Lucas Bey

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This is actually correct - retirement accounts (401k, IRA, etc.) are NOT counted as assets on the FAFSA. However, you should still report them accurately if asked. The system is designed to exclude them from the calculation, but misreporting information can flag your application for verification, which creates delays.

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Mia Alvarez

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You've all been so helpful! I've started a checklist based on your advice: 1. Create FSA IDs for myself and daughter (do this soon) 2. Gather 2023 tax returns and W-2s 3. Collect bank statements and any investment info 4. Apply as soon as the form opens on Dec 1, 2024 5. Check if potential colleges require the CSS Profile One last question - if we do run into issues with the application, what's the best way to get help? Is there an official guide or resource I should bookmark?

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Carter Holmes

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Great checklist! For official resources, bookmark studentaid.gov - they have guides, videos, and FAQs. Their social media accounts also post updates about deadlines and system issues. If you have specific questions during the application, the FAFSA itself has help text and tooltips. For more personalized help, many high schools hold FAFSA completion workshops, and most college financial aid offices offer assistance even to prospective students. And if you need to contact FSA directly, their number is 1-800-433-3243, but as others mentioned, be prepared for potentially long wait times during peak periods.

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Totally agree with checking if colleges need the CSS Profile too! My daughter applied to 6 schools and 2 required both FAFSA AND CSS Profile. The CSS asks for way more financial info and costs $25 for the first school and $16 for each additional one. They do have fee waivers though if your income qualifies.

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Mia Alvarez

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I had no idea the CSS Profile cost money! That's good to know - I'll need to budget for that depending on how many schools she applies to. Thanks for the heads up about possible fee waivers too.

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@Theresa Just be mentally prepared for how invasive these financial aid forms feel. They want to know EVERYTHING - your income, savings, home equity (for some schools), even child support. I felt like I needed a financial advisor AND a therapist after filling everything out! 😫 Oh and make SURE you're using the official studentaid.gov site. There are scam sites that charge you to fill out the FAFSA which should always be FREE!

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Mia Alvarez

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Thank you for the warning about scam sites! I would have assumed any FAFSA site was official. I'll make sure to only use studentaid.gov. And yes, I'm definitely not looking forward to sharing all our financial details, but I guess that's just part of the process.

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