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Does your SAI number directly match financial aid cutoff? Trying to understand my award letter

I'm trying to figure out how schools use the SAI from my FAFSA to determine aid. My SAI came back as $9,215, and it feels like there's some correlation with the gap between cost of attendance and the aid I'm being offered. For example, at State University, their COA is $27,500 and they offered me $18,300, which is almost exactly the difference between COA and my SAI number. Is this how it's supposed to work? Like if your SAI is $7,000, you'd get financial aid covering everything over that amount? Or do schools just use SAI as one factor among many? I've gotten different packages from different schools despite them all seeing the same SAI, so I'm confused about how this actually works in practice. Anyone have insight into this?

SAI (Student Aid Index) doesn't work as a straight cutoff in most cases. The system is way more complex than that! Each school has their own formula for distributing aid, and they consider different factors: - Some schools meet 100% of demonstrated need, others meet like 60-70% - Some prioritize merit scholarships over need-based aid - Public vs private schools approach this differently - Some schools include loans in their "meeting need" calculation, others only count grants My daughter's SAI was around $8,500, and she got wildly different packages from different schools - from covering nearly everything to barely anything. It's definitely not a simple "cover everything above your SAI" situation at most places.

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Thanks for explaining! That's really helpful. So there's no universal formula then? I was hoping there would be some predictable way to know what I'd get. When your daughter got those different packages, did any of them seem to use the SAI number directly in their calculations?

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bruh my SAI was 4,200 and i still got nothing from two schools lmao college financial aid is a scam

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Same!! My SAI is $5,832 and some schools offered ZERO in grants, just loans. Others gave me decent packages. The whole system makes no sense 🤷‍♀️

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Financial aid counselor here. The SAI (which replaced EFC) is indeed a factor in determining your aid, but it's not as simple as "cover everything above this number." Here's what actually happens: 1. SAI helps determine your *eligibility* for federal grants like Pell 2. Schools use SAI to calculate your demonstrated need (COA minus SAI) 3. But each institution has its own financial aid budget and priorities 4. Some schools are "need-blind" and "meet full need" - these typically cover costs above your SAI through a mix of grants, work-study, and loans 5. Most schools are "gapping" - meaning they acknowledge your need but don't fully meet it State schools typically have less funding for need-based aid than private institutions with large endowments. That's why you'll see such variation in offers despite having the same SAI.

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Thank you for breaking that down! Question: is there any negotiation room with financial aid offices if the gap between my demonstrated need and what they're offering is too big for my family to cover? My top choice is giving me about $5K less than what I'd need to actually attend.

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youll get SOME aid but never enuf lol. i had $6k SAI and still paying 14k out of pocket for state school. they dont care if u cant afford it

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Might depend on the school. My SAI was $12,000 and my sister's was $4,000 (different parent income years) and she definitely got a LOT more aid than me from the same school. Seemed pretty proportional to the SAI difference.

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I've spent way too much time researching this after my own confusion with the FAFSA this year. Your observation isn't a coincidence - many schools DO use the SAI as a starting point, but then apply their own institutional methodology. Private schools often use the CSS Profile in addition to FAFSA and have more complex formulas. Public universities tend to be more straightforward with their calculations but have limited aid budgets. One important thing: the lower your SAI, the more federal programs you qualify for. Under $3,500 typically qualifies for maximum Pell Grant. The $7,000-$9,000 range (where you are) is a tricky spot - you've demonstrated some need but aren't eligible for many federal programs. Have you tried calling the financial aid offices directly? Sometimes they can explain exactly how they calculated your package.

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I've been trying to call my top choice school's financial aid office for three days now and can't get through - just endless hold times and then disconnections. It's so frustrating when I'm trying to make a decision that affects my entire future!

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Thanks for the tip! I've never heard of this service before but I'm desperate at this point. I'll check out that video. Did they explain the SAI calculation to you when you finally got through?

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Yes! When I finally got through, the financial aid counselor walked me through exactly how they determined my aid package based on my SAI. Turns out they had additional institutional scholarships I could apply for that weren't automatically included. Definitely worth the call!

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To directly answer your SAI question: While there's no perfect correlation, schools with strong financial aid policies often use a calculation that looks like: Total Cost of Attendance (COA) - SAI = Demonstrated Financial Need Then they try to meet that need through a combination of: - Federal grants (Pell, SEOG) - State grants - Institutional grants/scholarships - Federal work-study - Federal loans But very few schools meet 100% of demonstrated need. Most have a "gap" - meaning they acknowledge you need more aid than they're offering. This is why you're seeing discrepancies. The most generous schools (typically high-endowment private colleges) come closest to the "cover everything above your SAI" model, but even they will expect different family contributions based on their own methodologies.

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this is such BS tho. they expect families to magically come up with thousands of dollars they don't have

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Thanks for all the responses. I'm still frustrated that this isn't more transparent, but at least I understand better now. I'm going to try to contact each financial aid office and see if I can get clear explanations of how they calculated my package. And I'll definitely try that Claimyr service someone mentioned since I'm sick of being on hold for hours. I'll update here if I learn anything useful about how my SAI was actually used in the calculations!

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I'm in a similar boat with my SAI and trying to decode these award letters! One thing I've learned is that some schools also consider your state residency status differently. As an out-of-state student, I noticed my SAI seemed less relevant at public universities compared to private ones. The private schools I applied to came much closer to that "COA minus SAI" calculation, while the public ones barely budged regardless of my demonstrated need. Also found out that some schools have priority deadlines for aid that aren't the same as admission deadlines - missed out on some institutional grants because I submitted my FAFSA after their internal cutoff even though it was before the federal deadline. The whole system definitely needs more transparency!

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That's such a good point about the state residency factor! I hadn't even considered that my in-state status might be affecting how schools use my SAI. And wow, I had no idea about those priority deadlines being different from the federal ones - that's so sneaky! Did you find out about the missed institutional grants after the fact, or were you able to appeal? I'm wondering if I should double-check all my schools to see if there are any additional aid opportunities I might have missed due to timing.

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One thing that really helped me understand this better was realizing that SAI is basically your "expected family contribution" but schools interpret it differently based on their own policies and budgets. I had an SAI of $8,400 and got packages ranging from $12,000 to $22,000 at different schools with similar costs of attendance. What I discovered is that schools with better endowments tend to stick closer to that "meet your demonstrated need" formula, while less wealthy schools might acknowledge your need but can only offer a fraction of it. Also, some schools "package" loans as part of meeting your need, while others focus more on grants. Pro tip: When you're comparing offers, look at the net price (COA minus grants/scholarships) rather than just the total aid amount. Sometimes a school offering "more aid" is actually more expensive because they're padding the numbers with loans and work-study. The CSS Profile schools especially seem to have their own way of calculating what families can actually afford beyond just the SAI.

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This is really helpful! I'm definitely going to start looking at net price instead of total aid amounts - that's such a smart way to compare. I think I've been getting confused because some schools list work-study as "aid" when really it's just a job opportunity. Quick question: when you mention CSS Profile schools having their own calculations, do you know if they completely ignore the SAI or do they use it as a baseline and then adjust from there? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth appealing to schools that seem way off from what my SAI suggests I should be able to afford.

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CSS Profile schools typically use the SAI as a starting point but then layer their own institutional methodology on top of it. They don't ignore it completely - it still determines your federal aid eligibility - but they might calculate your family's ability to pay differently based on things like home equity, small business assets, or non-custodial parent income that FAFSA doesn't fully capture. From what I've seen, appeals can definitely be worth it, especially if you have circumstances that changed after filing (job loss, medical expenses, etc.) or if there's a significant gap between what the school offered and what competing schools with similar profiles offered. The key is presenting concrete evidence - like comparing aid packages or documenting financial hardships. Some schools have formal appeal processes while others call it "professional judgment review." Either way, it's usually worth a shot if the gap is substantial!

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I'm new to this whole process and feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different aid packages I've received! My SAI is $6,800 and I'm seeing such huge variations between schools - some are offering packages that would leave me with around $7K to pay (which seems to match my SAI), while others are expecting my family to cover $15K+ even though we all submitted the same FAFSA. Reading through these responses has been super eye-opening. I had no idea about the difference between schools that "meet full need" vs those that don't, or that there are different priority deadlines for institutional aid. I'm definitely going to look more closely at the net price rather than just the total aid amounts - that's a game changer for comparing offers. Has anyone had success with appealing aid packages when there's a big discrepancy between what your SAI suggests you can afford and what schools are actually expecting? I'm wondering if it's worth reaching out to my top choice school that's asking for way more than my SAI number would indicate.

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Welcome to the confusing world of financial aid! I totally get that overwhelming feeling - I'm going through the same thing right now. From what I've learned reading through this thread, it definitely seems like appealing is worth a shot, especially when there's such a big gap between your SAI and what they're expecting you to pay. I'm in a similar situation where my top choice is asking for way more than what seems reasonable based on my SAI. From what others have mentioned, having concrete evidence like comparing aid packages from similar schools or documenting any financial changes can really help with appeals. I'm planning to gather all my award letters and reach out to see if they can explain the discrepancy or consider adjusting my package. The whole "meet full need" vs "gapping" concept was news to me too! It's so frustrating that this information isn't more transparent upfront. Good luck with your appeals - hopefully we both get some better news!

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I'm also navigating this maze as a first-time college applicant! My SAI is $8,950 and I've been so confused by the wildly different packages I've received. Some schools came pretty close to covering costs above my SAI amount, while others seem to have completely ignored it. What's been most helpful from reading everyone's experiences is understanding that SAI is more of a starting point than a hard rule. I'm definitely going to take the advice about focusing on net price instead of total aid amounts - I think I've been getting distracted by big scholarship numbers that include loans I'll have to pay back anyway. One question for those who've successfully appealed: how long did the process take? I'm trying to figure out if I have time to appeal before decision deadlines, or if I should just work with the packages I have. The uncertainty is killing me, but these responses have at least helped me understand that my confusion is totally normal!

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I'm right there with you on the confusion! As someone who just went through this process, I found that appeals typically take 2-4 weeks depending on the school, so definitely start ASAP if you're planning to appeal. Most schools understand that students need time to make informed decisions, so they're usually pretty reasonable about extending decision deadlines if you have an active appeal in process. One tip that helped me: when I called to ask about appeals, I also asked if they could walk me through exactly how they calculated my aid package using my SAI. Some schools were surprisingly transparent about their methodology, which helped me understand whether an appeal would even be worth it. A few schools told me upfront that they had already offered me their maximum institutional aid, which saved me time on futile appeals. The net price focus is definitely the way to go - I almost made a huge mistake choosing a school that looked more generous on paper but would have cost me way more in the long run. Good luck with everything!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a parent trying to understand this process for my daughter, and honestly, the lack of transparency in how schools use the SAI is maddening. Our family SAI is $11,200, and we're seeing everything from schools that basically expect us to pay exactly that amount to others wanting $20K+ on top of it. What I've found most frustrating is that the FAFSA makes it seem like there's some standardized process, but clearly every school just does whatever they want with your information. We're definitely going to focus on net price comparisons now rather than getting excited about big aid packages that are mostly loans. For parents who went through this before - is it worth having your student call the financial aid offices directly, or should parents be the ones making those calls? We want to advocate for our daughter but also don't want to undermine her independence in this process.

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As someone who's been lurking and reading all these responses, I think I can offer a perspective on the parent vs student calling question! From what I've seen with friends' families, most financial aid offices are totally fine with either the student or parent calling - they just need to verify identity first. Some offices actually prefer talking to parents since they often have more detailed knowledge about the family's financial situation. I'd suggest starting with your daughter making the call since it shows maturity and ownership of the process, but definitely prep her with specific questions beforehand. If the conversation gets too complex or if they need to discuss details she's not familiar with, she can always ask to conference you in or schedule a follow-up call with you included. Many offices are used to this and will work with whatever approach makes your family most comfortable. The transparency issue is SO frustrating - I feel like they should be required to publish their aid formulas or at least explain how they weight different factors beyond just the SAI!

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I'm a current college student who went through this exact confusion last year! My SAI was $8,600 and I got packages ranging from $14K to $26K at schools with similar costs. What really helped me understand the process was creating a spreadsheet comparing the actual net price (COA minus grants only - not loans or work study) across all my schools. I discovered that some schools were much more generous than others, but it didn't always correlate with their prestige or even their endowment size. A few mid-tier private schools actually gave me better packages than some "elite" institutions. The key insight for me was learning that your SAI is like a starting point for federal aid eligibility, but each school then applies their own institutional formula on top of that. Schools with strong need-based aid policies will try to get close to covering costs above your SAI, while others might only meet 60-70% of that demonstrated need. I ended up appealing to three schools and got meaningful increases from two of them. The successful appeals focused on comparing similar schools' offers and explaining specific financial circumstances that might not have been captured in the FAFSA. Definitely worth trying if there's a big gap between your SAI and what they're expecting!

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This spreadsheet approach sounds brilliant! I wish I had thought of that earlier - I've been trying to keep track of everything in my head and it's been so overwhelming. The point about mid-tier schools sometimes being more generous than elite ones is really eye-opening too. I think I've been too focused on prestige and not enough on actual affordability. Quick question about your appeals - when you compared similar schools' offers, did you just mention the dollar amounts or did you also explain why you thought the other schools' calculations made more sense? I'm wondering how detailed to get when I reach out to my top choice school about the gap between my SAI and their expected contribution. Also, do you remember roughly how long the appeal process took? I'm trying to balance being thorough with my appeals against decision deadlines creeping up!

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