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Lena Schultz

Do 401(k) and 403(b) retirement accounts count as assets on FAFSA?

I'm working on my daughter's FAFSA application for next year and I'm really confused about retirement accounts. Do I need to report our 401(k) and 403(b) accounts as assets? I've heard different things from friends - some say retirement doesn't count, others say it does. My husband has about $78,000 in his 401(k) and I have around $42,000 in my 403(b) from working at the school district. Would really appreciate some clarity because I don't want to mess up her chances for financial aid by reporting incorrectly!

Gemma Andrews

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Good news! Retirement accounts like 401(k)s and 403(b)s are NOT reported as assets on the FAFSA. The 2024-2025 FAFSA specifically excludes qualified retirement plans from the asset calculations. This includes traditional and Roth IRAs, pension funds, 401(k)s, 403(b)s, and other retirement vehicles. However, be careful - if you've recently contributed to these accounts beyond normal employer matching, those additional contributions might be considered untaxed income, which is different from assets but still impacts your SAI (Student Aid Index) calculation.

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Lena Schultz

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Oh thank goodness! That's a huge relief. But what do you mean by contributions "beyond normal employer matching"? My husband increased his 401(k) contribution to 12% last year - does that count as something I need to report?

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Pedro Sawyer

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this is wrong actually... my son's financial aid advisor told us ALL assets count including retirement

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Gemma Andrews

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I'm sorry, but that information isn't accurate for federal aid. The FAFSA instructions explicitly state that retirement plans (401k, 403b, IRA, pension plans) are NOT reported as assets. Your son's advisor might have been referring to the CSS Profile (used by some private schools), which does sometimes count retirement assets, or they may have been discussing income rather than assets.

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Mae Bennett

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When I filled out FAFSA last month, there was a specific instruction that said DO NOT include retirement accounts as assets. I was confused too because the CSS Profile for private schools DOES ask about them, so maybe that's where the confusion comes from? The two forms have different rules. I remember it clearly because I was so relieved I didn't have to report my tiny retirement fund lol

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Lena Schultz

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That makes sense about the different forms having different rules. We're only applying to state schools so just doing the FAFSA. Such a relief to know we don't need to include the retirement accounts!

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This is one of the most common FAFSA misconceptions! Here's the definitive answer: 1. For FAFSA: 401(k)s, 403(b)s, IRAs and other qualified retirement accounts are EXCLUDED from assets 2. For CSS Profile: Many private colleges DO count retirement assets, often with some exclusions based on age 3. Important note: If you converted any traditional retirement accounts to Roth accounts recently, that conversion amount WILL show up as untaxed income on your tax return, which affects your SAI calculation The FAFSA simplification implemented for 2024-2025 actually made this distinction clearer in the instructions. Just make sure you're correctly reporting other non-retirement investments like 529 plans, brokerage accounts, etc.

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Melina Haruko

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wait so does this mean if i took money OUT of my 401k last year (had to for emergency) i need to report that? or only for roth conversion??

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I spent 45 minutes on hold trying to ask the Federal Student Aid people this exact question last month. When I finally got through, they confirmed retirement accounts are NOT included as assets. BUT any distributions you took from them ARE counted as untaxed income if not reported on your taxes. BTW, if anyone else needs to reach FSA by phone, I used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that held my place in line and called me back when an agent was available. Saved me from listening to that hold music forever! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ

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Lena Schultz

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Oh that service sounds helpful! The FSA phone system is so frustrating. I tried calling twice last week and gave up after 30+ minutes on hold. I might check that out if I have more questions.

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Reina Salazar

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dumb question but what if u have a 401k loan??? does THAT count as an asset?? im so confused with all this fafsa stuff

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Not a dumb question at all! If you have an outstanding 401(k) loan, the loan itself is not counted as an asset on the FAFSA. The remaining balance in your 401(k) is still protected and not reported as an asset either. However, if you took out the loan and the money is now sitting in your bank account, that cash would count as an asset. Hope that helps!

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One more important point about retirement accounts and FAFSA: while the accounts themselves are not reported as assets, any contributions you make to these accounts during the tax year DO reduce your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income), which can potentially help your SAI calculation and increase aid eligibility. So there's actually a financial aid strategy where some parents increase retirement contributions during the FAFSA "base year" (the tax year used for the application) to lower their income for aid purposes while building retirement savings. Just be careful not to reduce your available cash too much if you'll need it for college expenses.

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Lena Schultz

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This is incredibly helpful - I had no idea this could be a strategy! My husband and I are both in our 50s so we're trying to catch up on retirement anyway. I'll look into increasing our contributions since our daughter will be applying for aid again next year too.

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Mae Bennett

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Im still confused about one thing - does money in your regular bank accounts count as assets? And like stocks and stuff? Its weird how retirement doesnt count but other savings do? The whole system makes no sense to me tbh

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Gemma Andrews

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Yes, cash in bank accounts, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, and other investments all count as assets on the FAFSA. The logic behind excluding retirement accounts is that those funds aren't readily available for college expenses without penalties, while your bank accounts and non-retirement investments can be used for current expenses. The system tries (imperfectly) to measure what you could reasonably spend on education now.

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Lena Schultz

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Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! This cleared up my confusion completely. Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. Our 401(k) and 403(b) accounts are NOT reported as assets on FAFSA 2. Regular bank accounts, stocks, and non-retirement investments DO count 3. CSS Profile (for private schools) has different rules and might count retirement 4. Contributing more to retirement can actually help by lowering our AGI This forum has been more helpful than hours of googling!

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Great summary, Lena! You've got it exactly right. One small additional tip I'd add - when you're filling out the FAFSA next year, the asset questions are asked on a specific day (the day you submit), so if you have flexibility, you might want to pay any large bills or expenses right before submitting to minimize your cash on hand. This is completely legal and can help optimize your aid eligibility. Also, don't forget that there's an asset protection allowance based on the age of the older parent, so not all of your non-retirement assets count dollar-for-dollar anyway. Good luck with your daughter's financial aid journey!

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Thanks Victoria! That's such a smart tip about timing the asset snapshot. I never would have thought of that strategy. Do you know roughly what the asset protection allowance amounts are? We're both in our early 50s so I'm curious how much of our savings might be protected. This community has been amazing - I feel so much more confident about navigating this process now!

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this process last year! I was also terrified about reporting retirement accounts incorrectly. What helped me was printing out the actual FAFSA instructions from studentaid.gov - they have a clear list of what NOT to include as assets, and retirement accounts are explicitly listed there. Also, if you're worried about making mistakes, the FAFSA has built-in help text when you hover over question marks next to each field. And remember, you can always go back and make corrections if needed - it's not set in stone once you submit. The key thing is just getting it submitted by the deadline! One last thing - keep copies of everything you report. I had to verify some information with my daughter's school later and having those records saved me so much stress.

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Ruby Knight

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This is such great advice, Charlotte! I'm definitely going to print out those official instructions - having the source document in hand would make me feel so much more confident. The hover help feature sounds really useful too. I had no idea you could make corrections after submitting, which takes a lot of pressure off. Thanks for sharing your experience and the tip about keeping copies of everything. As a first-time FAFSA parent, hearing from someone who's been through it successfully is really reassuring!

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Mateo Perez

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As someone who works in financial aid at a state university, I can confirm everything that's been shared here is accurate! Retirement accounts (401k, 403b, traditional/Roth IRAs, pensions) are absolutely NOT counted as assets on the FAFSA. This is federal policy and applies to all schools using FAFSA. A few additional points that might help: - The asset protection allowance for parents in their early 50s is around $15,000-20,000 (varies by age and marital status) - If you have a Health Savings Account (HSA), that's also excluded from FAFSA assets - 529 college savings plans ARE counted as parent assets, but they're assessed at only 5.64% compared to student assets at 20% One thing I always tell families is to complete the FAFSA even if you think you won't qualify for need-based aid - you need it for federal student loans, and some merit scholarships require it too. And yes, definitely keep records of everything you report! We request verification documents from about 1 in 3 families.

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Aisha Patel

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This is incredibly helpful to hear from someone who works in financial aid! Thank you for confirming all the information and providing those specific details about asset protection allowances. The HSA exclusion is something I hadn't heard mentioned before - that's good to know since we have one of those too. I really appreciate the tip about completing the FAFSA even if we think we might not qualify for need-based aid. We weren't sure if it was worth the effort, but knowing it's required for student loans and some merit scholarships makes it a no-brainer. Your point about keeping verification documents ready is noted - I'll make sure we have everything organized. It's so reassuring to get advice from someone who sees this process from the school side!

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Carmen Lopez

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As a parent who just went through this process for the first time last year, I wanted to share my experience to hopefully help ease some anxiety! I was in the exact same boat - terrified about reporting retirement accounts incorrectly and potentially hurting my son's financial aid chances. What really helped me was calling my 401(k) provider directly. They confirmed that retirement accounts are NOT reported as FAFSA assets and even sent me a summary document that I could reference. I also found the IRS Publication 970 helpful for understanding which education-related tax benefits we might be eligible for. One mistake I almost made was including my son's custodial UTMA account under parent assets instead of student assets (big difference in assessment rates!). Double-check those account ownership details carefully. Also, don't stress too much about getting everything perfect on the first try. The financial aid office at my son's school was incredibly helpful when I had questions during verification. They see nervous parents all the time and are usually very patient in explaining things. The whole process was way less scary than I had built it up to be in my head!

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Ravi Malhotra

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Carmen! It's really reassuring to hear from another parent who went through this successfully. I love the idea of calling my 401(k) provider directly - having that official confirmation would definitely give me peace of mind. I hadn't thought about getting documentation from them, but that's brilliant. Your point about the UTMA account is really important too - I need to double-check if we have any accounts like that for my daughter. The assessment rate difference sounds significant! And you're absolutely right about not stressing over perfection. I tend to overthink these things, but knowing the financial aid offices are there to help and used to working with nervous parents makes me feel so much better about the whole process. Thanks for the encouragement!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been stressing about this exact issue for weeks, reading all these experiences from other parents and the confirmation from actual financial aid professionals has been such a relief. I was particularly worried because my spouse and I have both been maxing out our 401(k) contributions this year, and I was terrified that would somehow count against us. Now I understand it might actually help by lowering our AGI! One question I still have - if we have an old 401(k) from a previous employer that we haven't rolled over yet, does that still get the same treatment as current employer retirement accounts? I assume yes, but want to be 100% sure before we submit our FAFSA. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences here. This community is amazing for first-time FAFSA parents like myself!

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Yuki Sato

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Yes, your old 401(k) from a previous employer gets the exact same treatment as current employer accounts - it's still excluded from FAFSA assets! The type of qualified retirement account matters, not where it currently sits. Whether it's with an old employer, rolled over to an IRA, or with your current employer, all qualified retirement accounts are protected from FAFSA asset calculations. You're absolutely right that maxing out contributions can actually help by reducing your AGI. It sounds like you're in great shape for the FAFSA process!

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Sean O'Brien

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Just wanted to jump in as someone who literally submitted our FAFSA yesterday! I was in the same boat as you Lena - completely confused about retirement accounts. After reading through all these responses, I can confirm that when I was filling out the asset section, there was actually a clear note that said something like "Do not include retirement plans such as 401(k), 403(b), IRA, Keogh plans, pension funds, etc." What really helped me was opening the FAFSA in one browser tab and the official instructions PDF in another tab so I could cross-reference everything as I went. The instructions are super detailed about what to exclude vs include. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you know the exact balance in all your reportable accounts (checking, savings, investments) as of the day you submit, not just rough estimates. I had to log into like 5 different accounts to get current balances, but it's worth being precise. Good luck with your daughter's application!

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Nora Bennett

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Thanks Sean! That's so helpful to hear from someone who literally just went through the process yesterday. I love the tip about having the FAFSA open in one tab and the official instructions in another - that sounds like a really smart way to double-check everything as you go. I definitely need to get organized with all our account balances before we start. It's reassuring to know that the FAFSA itself has those clear notes about excluding retirement accounts. This whole thread has made me feel so much more confident about tackling this process. Appreciate you sharing your fresh experience!

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StarStrider

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Wow, this entire thread has been incredibly reassuring! I'm also a first-time FAFSA parent and was completely overwhelmed by all the conflicting information I'd heard about retirement accounts. Reading through everyone's experiences and especially hearing from the financial aid professional has cleared up so much confusion. I particularly appreciated the strategy tips about timing asset snapshots and increasing retirement contributions during the base year - those are the kinds of insider insights you just can't find in the basic FAFSA guides online. One thing that really stands out to me is how helpful this community has been compared to trying to navigate government websites and phone systems. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when real parents share their actual experiences alongside the official rules. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge here. As someone who tends to stress about financial paperwork, this thread has transformed what felt like an impossible task into something totally manageable!

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I completely agree! This thread has been such a lifesaver. I was actually losing sleep over whether we were going to mess up our daughter's financial aid by reporting things wrong. It's incredible how much more reassuring it is to hear from actual parents who've been through this process rather than trying to decipher government websites that seem written in a different language! The strategic tips about timing and retirement contributions were eye-opening too - I never would have thought about those angles. This community really shows the power of people helping people navigate these complex systems together.

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Ava Thompson

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As someone who just discovered this amazing community while frantically googling FAFSA questions at 2am, I can't tell you how relieved I am to find this thread! I'm also dealing with the exact same confusion about retirement accounts for my son's FAFSA application. What's been driving me crazy is that every "expert" article online seems to have slightly different information, and I was starting to think I'd never get a straight answer. But reading through all these real experiences from actual parents who've successfully navigated this process has been incredibly reassuring. The tip about calling your 401(k) provider directly for official confirmation is brilliant - I'm definitely doing that tomorrow. And I had no idea about the timing strategy for the asset snapshot day or that increasing retirement contributions could actually help with aid eligibility. These are exactly the kinds of practical insights that make all the difference but never show up in the official guides. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences here, especially to the financial aid professional who confirmed everything. This thread should honestly be pinned as required reading for all first-time FAFSA parents!

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Carmen Ortiz

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Welcome to the community, Ava! I totally understand that 2am googling panic - I've been there too! It's so frustrating how different websites can give conflicting information about something as important as FAFSA. This thread really has been a goldmine of practical advice that you just can't find elsewhere. The community here is amazing at cutting through all the official jargon and giving real, actionable guidance. Definitely call your 401(k) provider - having that official confirmation will give you such peace of mind. Good luck with your son's application, and don't hesitate to ask if you have any other questions!

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Diego Castillo

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I stumbled across this thread while researching FAFSA asset reporting for my daughter's application, and I'm amazed by the depth of knowledge and real-world experience shared here. The clear confirmation that 401(k) and 403(b) accounts are NOT reported as FAFSA assets is such a relief - I was getting conflicting information everywhere else I looked. But what really impressed me were all the strategic insights about timing contributions, the asset snapshot day, and how retirement contributions can actually help by lowering AGI. These are the kinds of practical tips that can make a real difference but are never mentioned in the basic guides. Special thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences and to the financial aid professional who provided official confirmation. This thread has transformed what felt like an overwhelming and confusing process into something I feel confident tackling. This community is truly invaluable for parents navigating the financial aid maze for the first time!

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