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Would ESD benefit from a state transitional employment program for laid-off workers?

Just got laid off from my manufacturing job last week and dealing with the ESD unemployment claim process has been a nightmare. While fighting with the system, I had this idea: What if Washington implemented a program where the week you get laid off is the same week you start as a temporary state employee? You could work as an ESD claim specialist, DSHS intake worker, or other state roles while you look for permanent work. The state gets trained workers immediately, and people don't have gaps in employment or income while waiting for unemployment benefits to process. Completely voluntary, of course, but seems like it would save everyone headaches (and money). Has anyone heard of states trying something like this? Would this solve the adjudication backlog issues at ESD?

Yara Haddad

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that would actually make sence. everytime i call ESD it takes 2+ hours to talk to someone so they DEFINITELY need more workers lol. and it would save $ on benefits too

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Connor Murphy

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Right? I spent 3 hours on hold yesterday and then got disconnected. I'm thinking people who've been through the system would be the best ones to improve it.

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While this is an interesting idea in theory, there are several practical challenges that would make implementation difficult: 1. State positions require specific training and qualifications - someone laid off from manufacturing likely doesn't have the skills to immediately process ESD claims or handle DSHS intake without substantial training 2. Civil service rules and union contracts govern most state hiring, making immediate employment legally complicated 3. The budget allocation process for state positions is quite rigid and planned well in advance 4. Background checks are required for many positions that handle sensitive information A better alternative might be expanding the WorkSource programs that already exist to provide more transitional support and job placement services. The current system is designed to provide temporary income support specifically, not transitional employment.

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Paolo Conti

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This is exactly why our unemployment system stays broken - any suggestion for improvement gets shot down with "it's too complicated" even when it could potentially save millions. The current system clearly ISN'T working when people wait 8+ weeks for adjudication with no income! Training could be part of the program, and many laid-off workers already have customer service skills that would transfer well.

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Amina Sow

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when i got laid off from boeing in 2022 it took 6 weeks to get my first payment. i would have taken ANY job during that time just to keep paying rent. not sure if state jobs pay as well as aerospace but anything would be better than $0 and the anxiety of possibly getting evicted. worth considering IMO

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GalaxyGazer

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I understand the frustration with delays, but the unemployment system isn't designed to be immediate employment - it's insurance for when you lose your job. What you're describing sounds more like a state-run temp agency, which is a completely different program than unemployment insurance. If you're experiencing delays with your current claim, have you tried using Claimyr to get through to an ESD agent faster? They can help connect you with a live agent without the hold times. I was skeptical but their service at claimyr.com worked for me when I couldn't get through for weeks. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 showing how it works.

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Oliver Wagner

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This idea comes up periodically but ignores the fundamental nature of how state agencies operate. I've worked in state government for 15 years, and just getting a new position approved can take months, let alone onboarding someone. Even temporary positions go through HR processes, budget approvals, and background verification. The most practical solution would be improving the existing systems rather than creating a parallel employment program. Focus on modernizing ESD's technology infrastructure, simplifying the claim process, and expanding staff during high claim periods.

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Connor Murphy

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Thanks for the insider perspective. Maybe a more realistic approach would be having a pre-approved pool of temporary ESD workers who could be rapidly deployed during economic downturns? Sort of like how FEMA has disaster response teams ready to go. The current system clearly can't handle surge capacity.

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I LOVE THIS IDEA!!! I've been saying for YEARS that the people who actually USE government services should be the ones RUNNING them!!! My claim has been stuck in adjudication for 5 WEEKS now and nobody at ESD seems to care that I can't pay my bills!!!! The whole system is designed to be as frustrating and slow as possible to discourage people from collecting benefits they're ENTITLED TO!!!

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Yara Haddad

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i feel u. have u tried calling right when they open? sometimes thats the only way to get thru

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GalaxyGazer

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While your idea is creative, I'd like to clarify a few points about how unemployment insurance actually works: 1. UI benefits are funded by employer taxes based on their layoff history, not from the general state budget 2. There's a legal difference between being unemployed vs. being employed by the state in a temporary role 3. The skills gap would be substantial - processing claims requires specific training As someone who went through 9 weeks of adjudication last year, I understand the frustration with delays. I finally got through by using Claimyr (claimyr.com) which connected me directly to an ESD agent. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. Once I actually spoke with someone, my issues were resolved within days.

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Connor Murphy

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I appreciate the explanation about how UI funding works - that makes sense why it's separate from regular state employment. I'll check out that Claimyr service. Did you find the ESD agents were actually helpful once you got through to them?

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Paolo Conti

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I worked in workforce development for 7 years, and while this idea sounds good on paper, there's a huge disconnect between losing your job and being ready to work for a state agency. However, there ARE some transitional programs that might help: 1. Worker Retraining Program through community colleges 2. Dislocated Worker Program through WorkSource 3. Trade Adjustment Assistance for workers affected by foreign trade These programs can provide training stipends, job search assistance, and sometimes direct placement. The real problem is that most people don't know these resources exist or how to access them. ESD should focus on better connecting laid-off workers with EXISTING programs rather than creating new ones.

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Connor Murphy

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Thank you for sharing these resources! I had no idea about the Worker Retraining Program. Is that something I can apply for while my unemployment claim is still processing, or do I need to be approved first?

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My cousin in Oregon told me they do something kinda like this already. When COVID hit and unemployment went crazy, they took people who were waiting for benefits and hired them as temp workers to process other people's claims. Makes WAY more sense than making everyone sit around doing nothing while waiting for money!!!

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Oregon did temporarily reassign some state workers from other agencies to help with claims processing during COVID, but they didn't hire unemployment claimants as state workers. That would be a completely different program requiring legislative action, funding mechanisms, and significant changes to civil service rules. It's important to understand the distinction between redeploying existing trained state workers versus hiring brand new employees with no experience in claims processing.

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Amina Sow

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what im wondering is how much would these temp state jobs pay? cause if it's minimum wage that wouldn't even cover my rent. unemployment benefits are supposed to be like 60% of your regular pay up to the maximum. would these temp jobs match that or would people take a big pay cut to work for the state?

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Oliver Wagner

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Good question. Most entry-level state positions start around $19-23/hour depending on the classification, which is often less than what specialized manufacturing or tech workers earn. There's also the issue of benefits - regular state employees receive comprehensive benefits packages that wouldn't be cost-effective for very short-term positions. This creates another layer of complexity when considering temporary employment models.

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