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What is unemployment right now in Washington state - confused about the whole system

I'm totally lost about what unemployment even is right now. I just got laid off from my job at a manufacturing plant and everyone keeps telling me to file for unemployment but I don't understand what that actually means or how it works in Washington. Like what exactly IS unemployment? Is it just free money from the government? Do I have to pay it back? How much can I get? I've never had to deal with this before and I'm honestly pretty confused about the whole Washington ESD system. Can someone explain this to me like I'm five?

Unemployment insurance (UI) is a safety net program that provides temporary financial assistance when you lose your job through no fault of your own. In Washington state, it's administered by the Employment Security Department (ESD). You pay into this system through payroll taxes while you're working, so it's not free money - it's insurance you've already paid for. The maximum weekly benefit amount in Washington is currently around $1,015 per week, but your actual amount depends on your past earnings.

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Oh wow I had no idea I was already paying into it! That makes me feel better about applying. So I don't have to pay it back?

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Correct, you don't pay it back as long as you meet the eligibility requirements and don't commit fraud. It's your money that you've been contributing to.

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The Washington ESD website has all the info but honestly it's pretty confusing to navigate. Basically you file an initial claim, then you have to file weekly claims every week to keep getting paid. You also have to actively search for work and log your job search activities. There are a bunch of requirements you have to meet to stay eligible.

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How many jobs do I have to apply for each week? And what if I can't find any jobs in my field?

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I think it's 3 job search activities per week but don't quote me on that. You should check the Washington ESD website for the exact requirements.

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I was in the same boat when I got laid off last year. The whole process seemed overwhelming at first but it's actually not too bad once you get started. The key thing is to file your claim as soon as possible because there's a waiting week before you can start receiving benefits. I struggled for weeks trying to get through to Washington ESD on the phone to ask questions - the phone lines are always busy and I kept getting disconnected. Finally found out about Claimyr (claimyr.com) which helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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What exactly does Claimyr do? Is it like a phone service?

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Yeah, it basically helps you get through to Washington ESD when their phone lines are jammed. Instead of calling yourself and waiting on hold forever, they handle the calling for you and connect you when an agent is available.

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That sounds too good to be true. How much does something like that cost?

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The unemployment system in Washington is pretty generous compared to other states but the bureaucracy can be a nightmare. I've been dealing with an adjudication issue for 2 months now and still haven't received a penny. Make sure you answer all the questions on your initial application very carefully because if they flag anything for review, you could be waiting forever.

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What kind of things get flagged for review? I want to make sure I don't mess anything up.

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Things like if you quit your job, were fired for cause, or have any issues with your work history. Even something as simple as working in multiple states can trigger an adjudication review.

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unemployment is basically temporary income replacement when you lose your job. in washington you can get up to 26 weeks of benefits (sometimes extended during bad economic times). you have to be actively looking for work and available to work. there's also stuff like standby unemployment if your employer temporarily lays you off but expects to call you back.

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26 weeks seems like a long time. Is that enough to find a new job usually?

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depends on your field and the job market. some people find work in a few weeks, others use up the full 26 weeks. the idea is to give you time to find a good job match rather than just taking the first thing available.

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Let me break down the basic process: 1) File your initial claim online at secure.esd.wa.gov 2) Complete your waiting week 3) File weekly claims every week (even if you're still in adjudication) 4) Conduct job search activities and log them 5) Report any work or income when you file your weekly claims. The system is designed to replace about 50% of your previous income up to the maximum weekly benefit amount.

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This is super helpful! Do I file the weekly claims on the same day every week?

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You can file your weekly claim any day of the week, but it's for the previous week. So if you file on Tuesday, you're filing for the week that just ended on Sunday.

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The whole system is a joke if you ask me. I've been trying to get my claim approved for 6 weeks and every time I call Washington ESD they tell me something different. First they said I needed to verify my identity, then they said there was an issue with my employer information, now they're saying I might not be eligible because I worked part-time at a second job. It's like they're making it up as they go along.

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That sounds really frustrating. Are you able to get through to them on the phone at least?

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Barely. I've probably spent 40 hours on hold over the past month. When I do get through, they either can't help me or give me conflicting information.

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Just want to add that you should keep detailed records of everything - all your job search activities, any correspondence with Washington ESD, payment records, etc. If you ever need to appeal a decision or there's a problem with your claim, having good documentation will save you a lot of headaches.

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Good point. Should I keep track of this stuff on paper or is there a digital way to do it?

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I kept a simple spreadsheet with dates, job applications, and any contacts with Washington ESD. The job search log in your unemployment account helps too but I liked having my own backup.

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One thing I wish someone had told me early on - if you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone, don't just keep calling the main number over and over. There are specific callback times that work better, and services like Claimyr can really help cut through the phone system hassles. I wasted so much time trying to get through on my own before I found that solution.

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When are the best times to call if I want to try myself first?

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Early morning right when they open seems to be the best bet, but honestly even then it's hit or miss. The phone volume is just crazy high.

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been on unemployment twice in the past 5 years and it's pretty straightforward once you get the hang of it. the key is to stay on top of your weekly claims and job search requirements. don't let yourself fall behind on anything because catching up is a pain.

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What happens if you miss filing a weekly claim?

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you can usually file it late but there might be delays in payment. better to just set a reminder and file on time every week.

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Also worth mentioning that Washington has some additional programs beyond regular unemployment insurance. There's SharedWork (partial unemployment if your hours are reduced), disaster unemployment assistance in certain situations, and various job training programs that might be available depending on your circumstances. The Washington ESD website has information about all these programs.

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I didn't know about SharedWork. My hours got cut before I was laid off completely. Could I have applied for that?

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Possibly, but it requires your employer to participate in the program. It's designed to help avoid layoffs by allowing employees to work reduced hours while collecting partial unemployment benefits.

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The most important thing is to apply as soon as you're eligible. Even if you're not sure about something, it's better to apply and ask questions later than to wait and lose out on benefits. I made the mistake of waiting two weeks because I wasn't sure if I qualified, and I basically lost two weeks of payments because of the waiting period.

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So there's definitely a waiting period before you get paid?

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Yeah, there's a one-week waiting period for everyone. Plus if your claim goes into adjudication for any reason, that can add weeks or even months to the wait.

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Speaking of adjudication, that's where a lot of people get stuck. If Washington ESD needs to investigate anything about your claim - like the reason you lost your job, your work history, or your eligibility - they put it in adjudication status. During this time you're not getting paid but you should still file your weekly claims. The process can take anywhere from a few weeks to several months depending on how complex your situation is.

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That sounds terrifying. Is there any way to speed up the adjudication process?

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Not really. You can try calling to check on the status but mostly you just have to wait. Make sure you respond quickly to any requests for information they send you.

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also remember that unemployment benefits are taxable income. you can choose to have taxes withheld from your payments or you can pay them when you file your tax return. if you don't have taxes withheld, make sure you set aside some money for tax time.

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How much should I set aside for taxes? Like what percentage?

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depends on your total income for the year and tax situation, but probably 10-20% is a safe bet. you can have 10% automatically withheld when you set up your claim.

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I'm dealing with my second unemployment claim in 3 years (thanks, layoffs in tech) and I have to say the Washington system is pretty good once you understand it. The benefit amounts are decent and the online system mostly works well. My biggest challenge both times was getting through to customer service when I had questions. This time around I used a service called Claimyr to help with the phone situation and it was so much better than trying to call myself.

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How does Claimyr work exactly? Do they charge per call or is it a monthly thing?

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I don't want to get into the pricing details but it was worth it for me to avoid the phone hassles. You can check out their website and demo video to see if it makes sense for your situation.

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Look, the bottom line is that unemployment is money you've earned through your payroll contributions. Don't feel bad about applying for it - you've literally paid for this insurance. The system has problems and the bureaucracy can be frustrating, but it's there to help you during a tough time. Just be prepared for some paperwork and potential delays.

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Thank you for saying that. I was feeling guilty about applying but you're right - I did pay into it.

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Exactly. And don't let anyone make you feel bad about it. It's your money and you're in a situation where you need it.

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quick tip - when you're doing your job search activities, apply to jobs that are a realistic match for your skills and experience. don't just apply to random jobs to meet the requirement. washington esd can audit your job search activities and if they don't make sense, you could get in trouble.

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How do they audit job search activities? Do they contact the employers?

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they can contact employers to verify that you actually applied. mostly they're looking for patterns that suggest you're not seriously looking for work.

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Another thing to keep in mind - if you do any work while you're collecting unemployment, even just a day or two, you have to report it on your weekly claim. You might still be able to get partial benefits depending on how much you earned, but failing to report work income is considered fraud and can get you in serious trouble.

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What if I do some freelance work or gig work? Does that count as work I need to report?

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Yes, any income from any source needs to be reported. Freelance, gig work, cash jobs, everything. It's better to over-report than under-report.

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been lurking this thread and wanted to add that the WorkSource offices can be really helpful if you need in-person assistance. they have computers you can use to file claims, staff who can help with questions, and job search resources. might be worth visiting one if you're struggling with the online system.

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I didn't know those existed. Are they like physical offices I can visit?

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yeah, there are WorkSource offices throughout washington state. you can find locations on the washington esd website.

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Final thought for the OP - don't let the complexity scare you away from applying. Yes, there are rules and requirements, but millions of people successfully navigate the unemployment system every year. Start with filing your initial claim online, then take it one step at a time. If you run into problems or have questions, there are resources available to help including the option to get through to Washington ESD staff via services like Claimyr when the phone lines are impossible. You've got this!

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Thank you so much everyone! This thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm going to file my claim today and stop overthinking it.

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Good luck! Remember to keep filing those weekly claims even if your initial claim is still being processed.

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