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Dylan Mitchell

What is the main cause of unemployment in Washington state right now?

I've been looking at Washington ESD statistics and trying to understand what's driving unemployment rates in our state. My cousin lost her job at a tech company last month and I'm seeing more layoffs in the news. Is it mainly economic conditions, automation, or company restructuring? I'm trying to figure out if this is temporary or if I should be worried about job security in general. Anyone have insights into what Washington ESD is seeing as the primary reasons people are filing claims lately?

From what I've observed working in HR, it's really a combination of factors right now. In Washington state specifically, we're seeing tech layoffs, supply chain disruptions affecting manufacturing, and some seasonal adjustments in retail and hospitality. The Washington ESD quarterly reports usually break down separation reasons - most common are lack of work, company restructuring, and temporary layoffs.

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That makes sense. Do you know if Washington ESD tracks whether these are permanent job losses or temporary?

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They do track that somewhat through the work search requirements and standby status options, but it's not always clear-cut when people first file their claims.

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honestly i think its just the economy being weird right now. my whole department got laid off in december and when i filed with washington esd they said it was due to lack of work. seems like companies are just cutting costs everywhere

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Same here - filed my claim in January after my position was eliminated. The company said it was budget cuts but I think they're just preparing for a recession.

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Sorry to hear that happened to you both. Did Washington ESD process your claims quickly or are you dealing with adjudication delays?

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The main causes vary by region within Washington state. Seattle metro sees more tech layoffs, while rural areas deal with agricultural seasonality and logging industry changes. Manufacturing in places like Spokane and Tacoma face different pressures. Washington ESD probably has regional breakdowns if you dig into their labor market data.

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That's a good point about regional differences. I'm in the Seattle area so tech layoffs are definitely what I'm seeing most.

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Yeah I'm in eastern Washington and it's more about seasonal work ending and some businesses closing permanently. Different problems entirely.

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Automation is definitely part of it but I think people overestimate how much. Most unemployment claims I see are still due to traditional business cycles - companies expanding and contracting based on demand. When I filed my Washington ESD claim last year it was because my retail job cut hours so severely I qualified for partial unemployment.

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I didn't know you could get partial unemployment benefits. How does that work with the job search requirements?

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You still have to do job searches but it's adjusted based on your reduced hours. Washington ESD has specific rules about partial claims that are different from regular UI.

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THE MAIN CAUSE IS CORPORATE GREED!!! Companies are posting record profits while laying off workers to boost stock prices. Then they make us jump through hoops with Washington ESD just to get basic unemployment benefits. It's disgusting.

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i mean youre not wrong about some companies doing that but there are also legitimate business reasons for layoffs sometimes

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Maybe but when you see CEO bonuses going up while workers get pink slips it's hard to believe it's all legitimate business needs.

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Looking at Washington ESD's most recent data, the top separation reasons are: 1) Lack of work/business slow down 2) Position eliminated/restructuring 3) Temporary layoff 4) Plant/business closure 5) Seasonal work ending. These account for about 75% of all claims filed.

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This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you! Do you know if there's a trend toward more temporary vs permanent layoffs?

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From what I've seen, there's been an increase in 'temporary' layoffs that end up becoming permanent, but Washington ESD doesn't always capture that transition clearly in their initial data.

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I'm dealing with this firsthand right now. Got laid off from a manufacturing job and when I filed my Washington ESD claim, they classified it as 'lack of work' but honestly I think the company is just moving operations to a cheaper state. So frustrating that there's no real accountability for these decisions.

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That's rough. Are you having to do the full job search requirements or did they put you on standby status?

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Full job search requirements. They said standby is only for specific situations like union recalls or temporary shutdowns with a set return date.

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One thing that complicates the picture is that Washington ESD categories don't always capture the full story. For example, if a company lays people off due to automation but calls it 'restructuring,' it gets classified differently than if they admit it's technology replacing workers.

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So the data might not be showing the real impact of automation on unemployment?

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Exactly. The separation reason codes are based on what employers report, and they're not always incentivized to be completely transparent about their motivations.

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How much does it cost? I'm unemployed so I can't afford expensive services right now.

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They focus on the value of actually connecting you with ESD agents rather than the cost aspect. Check out their site for details, but it's designed to solve the problem of never being able to get through on the phone.

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tbh i think the main cause is just that the job market is unpredictable now. used to be you could count on certain industries being stable but now everything feels uncertain. filed my washington esd claim not knowing if my layoff would be 2 weeks or 2 years

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That uncertainty is real. Even when companies say it's temporary, you never know if they'll actually call people back.

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exactly and washington esd treats temporary layoffs differently than permanent ones but sometimes you dont know which one you have until months later

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Thanks everyone for all the insights. It sounds like there isn't one main cause but rather multiple factors depending on industry and region. The Washington ESD data breakdown that was shared really helps put things in perspective.

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Glad that was helpful! The quarterly reports from Washington ESD's labor market analysis division are actually pretty detailed if you want to dig deeper into the data.

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Just remember that behind all those statistics are real people struggling to pay bills while corporations play games with people's livelihoods.

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One thing I noticed is that seasonal unemployment gets lumped in with other causes but it's actually pretty predictable. In my area it's mainly agriculture and tourism related. Washington ESD could probably do better job separating seasonal patterns from economic disruption.

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That's a good point. Seasonal unemployment is fundamentally different from layoffs due to business closure or lack of work, but they sometimes get categorized similarly.

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Right, and the solutions are different too. Seasonal workers often know they'll be back, while other unemployed people are looking for completely new jobs.

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I think another factor that's not talked about enough is the mismatch between available jobs and worker skills. Even when there are job openings, sometimes the requirements don't match what unemployed workers can do. Washington ESD's job search requirements don't always account for this gap.

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That's interesting. Do you think retraining programs help with that mismatch?

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Some do, but there's often a timing problem. You need income now but retraining takes months or years. Washington ESD has some training programs but the approval process can be slow.

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Alright you've convinced me to check it out. The regular phone number is basically useless at this point.

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Yeah the regular number is frustrating. This actually gets you connected to talk through your specific questions about unemployment causes, claim status, whatever you need.

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Look, all these categories and data points are fine but the REAL main cause is that workers have no power anymore. Companies can just eliminate positions whenever they want and we have to grovel to Washington ESD for basic survival benefits. The system is broken.

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i get the frustration but some of these job losses are genuinely due to economic factors beyond any individual company's control

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Maybe but when you're the one getting laid off it doesn't matter if it's 'economic factors' or corporate greed - you still can't pay rent.

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To wrap up the data discussion, Washington ESD's labor market economists generally point to cyclical factors (normal business cycles), structural changes (industry shifts), and external shocks (like supply chain issues) as the main categories of unemployment causes. Most individual cases involve multiple factors rather than a single cause.

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This has been really educational. I feel like I understand the complexity of unemployment causes much better now. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge.

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Agreed, it's not as simple as one main cause. The interplay between different factors makes it challenging for both workers and policymakers to address effectively.

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Based on my experience filing a claim last year, I think what we're seeing is a perfect storm of multiple factors hitting at once. In my case, the company cited "restructuring" but it was really about cutting costs ahead of an expected downturn. What struck me when talking to other people at the Washington ESD office was how many different stories there were - tech layoffs, retail hour cuts, manufacturing slowdowns, seasonal work ending early. It seems like the traditional boundaries between different types of unemployment are getting blurred. Companies are being more strategic about timing layoffs and how they classify them, which makes it harder to pin down one main cause.

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