Washington ESD unemployment taxes - confused about the two types I keep hearing about
I'm trying to understand something about unemployment taxes that's been bugging me. I keep hearing there are two different types of unemployment taxes but I can't find a clear explanation anywhere. Is one paid by employers and one by employees? Or are they both employer taxes? I'm asking because I'm starting a small business next year and want to make sure I understand all my tax obligations. Also wondering if this affects my current unemployment claim in any way since I'm still collecting benefits while doing some freelance work. Can someone break this down for me?
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Nathan Dell
The two types are FUTA (Federal Unemployment Tax Act) and SUTA (State Unemployment Tax Act). FUTA is federal and SUTA is what Washington State calls their unemployment insurance tax. Both are paid by employers, not employees. FUTA rate is 6% on first $7,000 of wages but most employers get a credit that brings it down to 0.6%. Washington's SUTA rates vary by employer experience rating.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Thank you! So as an employee I don't pay anything toward unemployment insurance? That's different from what I thought.
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Nathan Dell
•Correct, employees don't pay unemployment taxes in Washington. It's entirely funded by employer contributions.
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Maya Jackson
Just to add - Washington ESD handles the state portion (SUTA). When you register your business you'll need to get an unemployment insurance account with them. The rates depend on your industry and claims history.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Do I need to register right away or can I wait until I actually hire employees?
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Maya Jackson
•You need to register within 30 days of hiring your first employee or paying wages over $150 in a quarter.
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Tristan Carpenter
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Amaya Watson
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Tristan Carpenter
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Rebecca Johnston
•I'll check that out, thanks. I've already had issues getting through to ESD about my current claim so this might help.
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Grant Vikers
Be careful about the freelance work while collecting benefits! You need to report all earnings on your weekly claims. Even if you're planning to start a business, any income needs to be reported to Washington ESD.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Yes I've been reporting everything. Just trying to understand the tax side before I make it official.
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Grant Vikers
•Good! Too many people get overpayment notices because they didn't report properly.
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Giovanni Martello
The Washington State rate varies A LOT by industry. Construction and hospitality pay way more than tech companies because of claim history. New employers usually start at a standard rate until they build their own experience rating.
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Rebecca Johnston
•What industry pays the lowest rates typically?
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Giovanni Martello
•Professional services, tech, finance usually have lower rates. Industries with seasonal layoffs or high turnover pay more.
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Savannah Weiner
wait so employees dont pay anything?? ive been wondering about this too because my paystub shows social security and medicare taxes but no unemployment tax
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Nathan Dell
•That's right - unemployment insurance is funded entirely by employers in Washington. You'll see Social Security and Medicare because those are split between employee and employer.
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Savannah Weiner
•ok that makes sense now thanks
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Rebecca Johnston
One more question - if I hire independent contractors instead of employees, do I still need to pay unemployment taxes on them?
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Nathan Dell
•No, true independent contractors aren't covered by unemployment insurance. But be careful about classification - Washington has strict rules about who qualifies as an independent contractor.
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Maya Jackson
•Yeah, if ESD determines they should be classified as employees, you could owe back taxes and penalties.
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Levi Parker
I got audited by Washington ESD last year over worker classification. They're really cracking down on this. Make sure you understand the difference between employees and contractors before you decide.
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Rebecca Johnston
•What happened with your audit? Did you have to reclassify people?
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Levi Parker
•Had to reclassify 3 people as employees and pay back taxes. Cost me about $8,000 total.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Yikes! I'll definitely be careful about that.
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Libby Hassan
The FUTA credit thing is important to understand too. Most states qualify for the credit but if a state has unpaid federal loans, employers in that state lose the credit and pay the full 6%.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Does Washington qualify for the credit currently?
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Libby Hassan
•Yes, Washington employers currently get the FUTA credit so they pay 0.6% instead of 6%.
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Hunter Hampton
Just want to echo what others said about reporting freelance income. I see so many people get in trouble because they think small amounts don't matter. Report everything!
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Rebecca Johnston
•I've been reporting even $20 payments just to be safe.
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Hunter Hampton
•Good approach! Better to over-report than under-report.
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Tristan Carpenter
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Sofia Peña
•I might need that. My accountant doesn't really understand the Washington ESD system and I keep getting conflicting information.
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Tristan Carpenter
•Yeah, specialized help is worth it for this stuff. The ESD website isn't always clear.
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Aaron Boston
For new businesses, you'll get assigned to rate class 40 initially which is kind of a middle-ground rate. Your actual rate depends on your industry classification code.
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Rebecca Johnston
•How do I find out what classification code my business would be?
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Aaron Boston
•It's based on your primary business activity. ESD has a lookup tool on their website or you can ask when you register.
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Sophia Carter
The tax rates get reviewed annually too. So even if you start with one rate, it can change based on your claims experience and the overall state fund balance.
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Rebecca Johnston
•So if I never have any employees file claims, my rate could go down?
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Sophia Carter
•Exactly. Lower claims history generally means lower rates, but it takes time to build that history.
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Chloe Zhang
Don't forget about the wage base limits too. FUTA is on first $7,000 per employee per year. Washington's wage base is higher - I think it's around $62,500 for 2025.
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Rebecca Johnston
•So I only pay unemployment tax on the first $62,500 of each employee's wages?
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Chloe Zhang
•Right, anything above that wage base isn't subject to unemployment tax.
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Brandon Parker
Make sure you understand the quarterly reporting requirements too. You'll need to file wage reports even if you have zero wages to report in a quarter.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Even with zero wages? That seems weird.
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Brandon Parker
•Yeah, it keeps your account active and avoids penalties. It's just a simple online form.
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Adriana Cohn
I struggled with all this when I started my business too. The good news is once you get set up, the quarterly reports are pretty straightforward if you keep good records.
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Rebecca Johnston
•What record keeping system do you recommend?
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Adriana Cohn
•I use QuickBooks but even a simple spreadsheet works if you track wages and dates consistently.
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Jace Caspullo
One thing to watch out for - if you don't file your quarterly reports on time, Washington ESD can estimate your wages and send you a huge bill. Always file even if it's zero.
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Rebecca Johnston
•What's considered 'on time' for the quarterly reports?
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Jace Caspullo
•Due on the last day of the month following the end of each quarter. So Q1 is due April 30th, Q2 due July 31st, etc.
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Melody Miles
This thread has been super helpful! I was confused about the same thing. Glad to know employees don't pay unemployment tax in Washington.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Right? I thought it was like Social Security where it's split between employer and employee.
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Melody Miles
•Same here! Makes me feel better about the taxes I've been seeing on my paystubs.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
For anyone still reading - definitely get familiar with the ESD SecureAccess Washington system early. You'll use it for all your reporting and it can be confusing at first.
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Rebecca Johnston
•Is that different from the regular ESD website?
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
•Yeah, SecureAccess Washington (SAW) is the secure portal for businesses and claimants. You'll need to create an account there.
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Eva St. Cyr
Thanks everyone for all the detailed responses! This has cleared up a lot of confusion for me. I feel much more prepared to handle the tax side when I officially start my business.
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Nathan Dell
•Glad we could help! Feel free to ask if you run into more questions when you get started.
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Tristan Carpenter
•And remember about Claimyr if you need to talk to someone at ESD directly. Sometimes it's worth getting professional help navigating the system.
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