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Olivia Harris

Do Social Security automatically withhold taxes or will I get a surprise tax bill later?

I'm turning 65 next month and just submitted my application for Social Security retirement benefits. One thing I completely forgot to ask during my application process - do they automatically take out taxes from my monthly payments? I'm still working part-time (about 25 hours weekly) and know my combined income will definitely be taxable. I honestly don't want to get blindsided with a massive tax bill next April. Hoping someone here knows if the SSA handles this automatically or if I need to contact them to set up withholding. Thanks in advance for any guidance!

nope taxes arent automatic u gotta request it. my mom got hit with a 4k tax bill cause nobody told her!

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about! Do you know how she set it up after that happened?

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Social Security doesn't automatically withhold taxes from your benefits. You need to complete a voluntary withholding request (Form W-4V) to have federal taxes withheld at 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22% of your monthly benefit. Since you're still working part-time, this is definitely something you should consider, especially if your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your SS benefits) will exceed $25,000 for single filers or $32,000 for married filing jointly. You can download the W-4V form from the IRS website or call SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to request it. Complete it and return it to your local Social Security office. Alternatively, you can make quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS if you prefer not to have taxes withheld from your monthly benefit.

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Thank you SO much for the detailed information! I'll definitely look into the W-4V form. With my part-time income plus Social Security, I'll definitely be over that threshold. I appreciate you explaining the percentage options too.

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The goverment is DESIGNED to trick seniors!!!! They know EXACTLY what they're doing by not making the tax withholding automatic!!! My brother-in-law got hit with a $7,800 tax bill his first year on SS because NOBODY at the SSA office bothered to mention taxes might be owed!!! It's a TRAP to collect penalties and interest!!!!

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same thing happened to my neighbor. she had to set up a payment plan with the irs. whole thing is a racket if you ask me

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I went through this exact situation last year. Called SSA for THREE WEEKS trying to get through to someone to set up tax withholding after I realized it wasn't automatic. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA agent in under 10 minutes! They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I finally talked to someone, it was super easy to set up the withholding. I chose 12% since I also have a part-time job. The peace of mind is totally worth it.

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Thank you for the recommendation! I was dreading those endless phone calls. I'll check out that service - getting this taken care of quickly would be a huge relief.

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Just to add some clarity here - up to 85% of your Social Security benefits may be taxable depending on your combined income. The exact formula is a bit complex, but generally: - If you file single and your combined income is between $25,000-$34,000, up to 50% of benefits may be taxable - Above $34,000, up to 85% may be taxable - For married filing jointly, the thresholds are $32,000-$44,000 for 50%, and above $44,000 for 85% Since you're working part-time, you should definitely consider tax withholding or quarterly estimated payments. The W-4V form lets you choose withholding percentages of 7%, 10%, 12%, or 22%. Also don't forget about state taxes - 12 states tax Social Security benefits to some degree (CO, CT, KS, MN, MO, MT, NE, NM, RI, UT, VT, and WV).

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And of course they make the formula COMPLICATED on purpose!!! Why not just make it SIMPLE so seniors can understand it??? Because they WANT people to make mistakes!!

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i didn't withhold taxes when i started getting ss last year. just made sure to save enough each month for the tax bill. worked fine for me but might be harder for some people to remember to save.

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That's a good point about saving each month. I'm not great at setting money aside though - I think automatic withholding might be safer for me!

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btw my mom said after she got hit with that tax bill she filled out that w4v form thing everyone's talking about and faxed it to the local ss office. took like 2 months to actually start working tho so do it asap!!!

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That's a great point about the processing time. It can take 1-3 months for withholding requests to be implemented, so it's definitely best to submit that W-4V form as soon as possible!

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I actually just went through this process myself a few months ago! One thing I'd add is that you can also submit the W-4V form online through your my Social Security account at ssa.gov if you have one set up. It's much faster than faxing or mailing it in - mine was processed in about 3 weeks instead of the 2+ months others have mentioned. Given that you're still working part-time, I'd definitely recommend getting this set up ASAP. I chose the 12% withholding rate and it's been perfect for my situation. Better to have a small refund than owe a big chunk come tax time! You can also change the withholding percentage later if needed by submitting a new W-4V form, so don't stress too much about picking the "perfect" rate right away.

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This is incredibly helpful information! As someone who just started receiving Social Security benefits and had no idea about the tax withholding situation, reading through everyone's experiences has been a real eye-opener. I'm definitely going to submit that W-4V form through my online Social Security account this week. One quick question for those who've been through this process - I keep seeing people mention the "my Social Security" online portal for submitting the W-4V form. Is this something I would have automatically gotten access to when I applied for benefits, or do I need to create a separate account? I want to make sure I'm using the right system to avoid any delays. Also, for anyone who's used the online submission method - did you get any kind of confirmation email or notification that your W-4V was received and being processed? Just want to make sure I can track that it went through properly. Thanks again to everyone for sharing their experiences - this community is amazing for navigating these complex government processes!

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Great question about the my Social Security portal! You should already have access since you applied for benefits - it's the same account you used during your application process. Just log in at ssa.gov/myaccount with your existing credentials. If for some reason you can't access it, you can always create a new account, but most people who've applied for benefits recently already have one set up. As for confirmation, from what I've read in other threads, you should get some kind of acknowledgment through the portal, though I haven't gone through the process myself yet. I'd recommend taking screenshots of your submission for your records, and like others mentioned, you can always call to request that confirmation letter to be extra sure it went through properly. Better to be overly cautious with something this important! I'm planning to do the same thing this week - submit my W-4V online after reading everyone's advice here. This really is a fantastic community for learning about these processes!

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