Can I apply for my wife's spousal benefits same time as my delayed SS retirement at 70?
Looking for some guidance about the timing of spousal benefits. I've delayed taking my Social Security retirement until I turn 70 in a few months (wanted those delayed retirement credits!). My wife started collecting her own SS when she reached her full retirement age about 3 years ago. We've done some calculations and it looks like her spousal benefit based on my work record would be quite a bit higher than what she's currently receiving (about $390 more per month). I'm wondering about the application process - can we submit her application for the spousal benefit at the same time I apply for my retirement benefit? Or does she need to wait until my benefits are actually approved and started? Also, will SSA automatically calculate and compare which benefit is higher, or do we need to specifically request the spousal benefit? This whole coordinating benefits thing is making my head spin. Thanks for any help!
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Anna Kerber
Yes, your wife can apply for spousal benefits at the same time you apply for your retirement benefits. The SSA will automatically calculate whether she's eligible for additional benefits as a spouse once your benefit begins. Since your wife is already receiving her own retirement benefit, she doesn't need to submit a new application. What will happen is once your benefit starts, the SSA will automatically determine if she's eligible for the higher amount as your spouse. If so, they'll combine her existing benefit with an additional amount to bring her total up to the higher spousal rate. Just make sure when you apply for your benefits, you indicate that you're married and provide your wife's information, including her Social Security number. The system should handle the rest.
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Roger Romero
•Thank you! That's a relief to hear it should happen automatically. When I apply for my benefits, should I still mention somewhere that we're interested in having her spousal benefit reviewed? I'm just worried about things falling through the cracks at the SSA.
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Niko Ramsey
Actually, you DO need to apply!!! My husband and I were in this EXACT situation last year, and nobody told us we had to apply separately for the spousal benefit. We missed out on 8 MONTHS of the higher payment before someone at our local office figured it out. DON'T trust that it will happen automatically. Go to the office together with ALL your documents and specifically tell them you want to apply for spousal benefits. The online system DOES NOT always catch this!!!
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Seraphina Delan
•thx for sharing this. ive heard so many horror stories about SSA messing up applications. better safe than sorry i guess
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Jabari-Jo
The previous responses contain both correct and incorrect information, so let me clarify: Technically, your wife doesn't need to submit a formal application for spousal benefits since she's already receiving her own retirement. However, the process isn't always as automatic as it should be. Here's what I recommend: 1. When you apply for your retirement benefits, make sure to list your wife and indicate she's already receiving benefits 2. About 30 days after your application is processed, have your wife call SSA to verify they're processing the deemed spousal application 3. If nothing happens within 60 days of your benefit starting, have her contact SSA directly This dual approach ensures you don't miss out on any payments. The spousal benefit increase should be paid retroactive to your entitlement date if there are any delays in processing.
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Roger Romero
•Thanks for the detailed explanation. The 30/60 day timeline is really helpful. Would it be better to call or visit our local office for that follow-up check?
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Kristin Frank
One more thing to consider - when your wife gets the spousal benefit increase, they'll recalculate based on when you file. Since you're waiting till 70, your benefit is 32% higher than at your FRA (assuming FRA of 66). But her spousal benefit doesn't get those delayed credits - it's based on your FRA benefit amount. Just so you aren't surprised when the numbers come in. They should give her 50% of your FRA amount (minus her own benefit).
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Roger Romero
•I wasn't aware of that detail about the spousal benefit being based on my FRA amount rather than my age 70 amount. That's disappointing but good to know. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Micah Trail
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Nia Watson
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Micah Trail
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Seraphina Delan
my mom went thru this last yr. make sure u bring marriage certificate when u go to office. they made her come back a 2nd time bc she didnt have it the 1st time even tho they been married 40+ yrs!
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Roger Romero
•Good point about the marriage certificate! I'll make sure we have that ready. We've been married almost 45 years, but I know they need documentation for everything.
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Nia Watson
I think everyone's overcomplicating this. When one spouse files, SSA is supposed to check if the other spouse is eligible for anything more as a spouse. But their systems aren't perfect. Just make sure when you go in that you specifically ASK about the spousal benefit. Write it down so you don't forget to mention it. And get the name of who you talk to. That's what I did and it worked fine.
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Niko Ramsey
Has anyone else noticed how IMPOSSIBLE it is to get consistent answers from Social Security??? One person says it's automatic, another says you have to apply, another says maybe it works sometimes... THIS IS OUR RETIREMENT MONEY! Why can't they have ONE clear process that actually WORKS?? It's so frustrating!!!
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Seraphina Delan
•ikr! and then they blame us when something goes wrong. my uncle had to fight for months to fix an issue that was their mistake
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Anna Kerber
•It is frustrating, but the correct process is that it should be automatic once the higher-earning spouse files, though following up is always wise. The confusion comes because SSA's systems don't always communicate perfectly between departments, which is why being proactive helps.
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Jabari-Jo
One more thing that's important - once your wife starts receiving the increased spousal benefit, be aware that this might affect her Medicare Part B and D premiums if your combined income crosses certain thresholds. The additional income could potentially push you into a higher IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount) bracket. Just something to plan for when budgeting for next year.
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Roger Romero
•I hadn't even thought about the IRMAA implications. We're already paying a bit higher due to our income, but this is a good reminder to check if the additional spousal benefit might push us into the next bracket. Thank you!
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Kristin Frank
One question nobody's asked - have you made sure the $390 increase calculation is correct? Remember that spousal benefit is 50% of your FRA amount (not your age 70 amount) minus her full retirement benefit. A lot of people get confused and think it's 50% of whatever you're actually receiving.
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