NYS Department of Labor unemployment denial after being fired - can you be denied unemployment if you are fired?
I got terminated from my warehouse job last Friday for what they called 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I questioned some safety protocols. My supervisor had been writing me up for minor things over the past month. Now I'm worried about filing for unemployment - can you be denied unemployment if you are fired? I heard conflicting things from coworkers about whether NYS Department of Labor will approve benefits if you were terminated rather than laid off. The whole situation feels unfair and I really need these benefits to pay rent while I look for another job. Has anyone dealt with this before?
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Emma Bianchi
Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in New York. The NYS Department of Labor will review the circumstances of your termination during adjudication. If you were fired for misconduct (like theft, violence, or willful violations of company policy), then you'd likely be denied. But if it was for performance issues, attendance problems that weren't willful, or general unsatisfactory work, you can still qualify. The key is whether your actions were deliberate misconduct versus just not meeting expectations.
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Mia Green
•That's really helpful, thank you! The performance issues they cited were mostly about meeting quotas that I felt were unrealistic given the safety concerns I raised. I never had any disciplinary action for misconduct or anything like that, just these productivity write-ups.
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Lucas Kowalski
Yeah I was fired from my retail job for being late too many times and still got approved for UI benefits. It took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision during adjudication but they ruled in my favor. Just be honest on your application about why you were terminated and let NYS Department of Labor decide.
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Olivia Martinez
•wait really?? i thought if you got fired you couldnt get unemployment at all. this is good to know because my manager has been giving me a hard time lately
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Charlie Yang
The fact that you were questioning safety protocols actually works in your favor here. NYS Department of Labor considers it misconduct to fire someone for raising legitimate workplace safety concerns. When you file your weekly claim, make sure to mention that the performance issues started after you raised safety concerns. You might want to document everything you can remember about the timeline. If they initially deny your claim, definitely appeal it because you have a strong case.
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Mia Green
•I didn't think about the safety angle being important for the unemployment claim. I do have some text messages to my coworker about the safety issues from before the write-ups started. Should I keep those handy?
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Charlie Yang
•Absolutely keep those texts! Any documentation that shows the timeline of you raising safety concerns versus when the disciplinary actions started will be valuable if you need to appeal or if they request more information during adjudication.
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Grace Patel
Ugh the whole system is so frustrating! I've been trying to get through to someone at NYS Department of Labor for weeks about my claim status and can never reach anyone. The phone lines are always busy and when I do get through I get disconnected. Last time I spent 4 hours on hold for nothing! How is anyone supposed to get help when you can't even talk to a real person??
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ApolloJackson
•I had the same problem until someone told me about this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com). They basically get you through to an actual NYS Department of Labor agent without all the waiting and getting hung up on. I was skeptical at first but watched their demo video (https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI) and decided to try it. Got through to someone within 20 minutes and finally got my claim status sorted out. Might be worth checking out if you're having phone issues.
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Grace Patel
•Never heard of that but honestly at this point I'm willing to try anything. The regular phone system is absolutely useless.
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Isabella Russo
just file and see what happens, worst case they say no and you appeal it. i got fired from like 3 different jobs and got unemployment each time lol. as long as you werent stealing or fighting or whatever they usually approve it eventually
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Emma Bianchi
To directly answer your original question - yes, you can be denied unemployment if you're fired, but only under specific circumstances. NYS Department of Labor uses the legal standard of 'misconduct' which has to be willful and work-related. Performance issues, especially when you were raising legitimate safety concerns, typically don't meet that standard. File your claim as soon as possible and be completely honest about the circumstances. The adjudication process will determine if your termination qualifies as misconduct.
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Manny Lark
I went through something similar last year when I got fired from my manufacturing job. The key thing is to file your claim right away - don't wait because there's a waiting period anyway. When they ask why you were terminated, be honest but focus on the facts: performance issues related to quotas, and that you had raised safety concerns. The NYS Department of Labor will contact both you and your former employer to get both sides of the story. Since you mention the write-ups started after you questioned safety protocols, that timeline could actually work in your favor. Even if they initially deny your claim, you have the right to appeal and present your case to a hearing officer. Don't let the fear of denial stop you from applying - you need those benefits and you may have a stronger case than you think.
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Khalid Howes
•This is really encouraging to hear from someone who went through a similar situation! I was definitely overthinking it and letting my anxiety get the best of me. You're absolutely right that I should file right away - I keep putting it off because I'm worried about getting denied, but that's just wasting time. The timeline aspect you mentioned makes a lot of sense too. I'm going to gather up those text messages about the safety concerns and file my claim this week. Thanks for the practical advice and for sharing your experience!
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Liam Sullivan
I've been following this thread and wanted to add my perspective as someone who used to work in HR. The safety concerns you raised are actually protected activity under both state and federal law - employers can't legally retaliate against workers for raising legitimate safety issues. The fact that your performance write-ups started AFTER you questioned safety protocols is a red flag for potential retaliation. When you file your unemployment claim, definitely mention this timeline. If your former employer tries to fight your claim by saying it was purely performance-based, the timing will work strongly in your favor. NYS Department of Labor takes workplace safety seriously and they know employers sometimes use "performance issues" as cover for illegal retaliation. You should absolutely file - don't let them intimidate you out of benefits you're likely entitled to.
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Laila Fury
•This is such valuable insight from the HR perspective! I hadn't really thought about the retaliation angle before, but you're absolutely right about the timing being suspicious. It's actually kind of validating to hear that this pattern is something NYS Department of Labor would recognize and take seriously. I was starting to second-guess myself about whether the safety concerns were legitimate or if I was just being difficult, but your comment helps me see that I was actually exercising my rights as a worker. I'm definitely going to emphasize that timeline when I file - the fact that I had no performance issues until after I spoke up about safety really does tell a story. Thank you for taking the time to share your professional perspective on this!
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Yuki Tanaka
I've been through the NYS Department of Labor unemployment process twice - once when I was laid off and once when I was fired for what my employer called "poor attitude" (which was really just me advocating for better working conditions). The second time I was initially denied but won on appeal. Here's what I learned: document everything NOW while it's fresh in your memory. Write down dates, what safety concerns you raised, who you raised them to, and when the write-ups started. The adjudication process can take several weeks, but don't let that discourage you from filing immediately. Even if you get an initial denial, the appeals process is where you can really present your case with all the evidence. Given that you were questioning safety protocols and then suddenly started getting performance write-ups, you have a strong argument for retaliation. File your claim this week and don't let your former employer scare you out of benefits you deserve.
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Evelyn Martinez
•Wow, your experience really gives me hope! The fact that you won on appeal even after an initial denial is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been so worried about the whole process but you're absolutely right - I need to document everything while it's still fresh. I'm going to sit down tonight and write out a timeline of when I raised the safety concerns, who I talked to about them, and exactly when these "performance issues" started appearing. It's actually pretty clear when I think about it - I had been there for 8 months with no problems until I spoke up about the unsafe lifting procedures and inadequate protective equipment. Then suddenly I'm getting written up for not meeting quotas that honestly felt impossible to hit safely. Your advice about filing immediately makes total sense too - I've been putting it off for almost a week now just because I'm anxious about it. Thanks for sharing your story and the practical steps - it really helps to hear from someone who actually went through this successfully!
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Issac Nightingale
I'm going through a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I got fired from my food service job two weeks ago for "attitude problems" but really it was because I kept asking management about getting the broken freezer fixed and proper cleaning supplies. They said I was being "difficult" and "not a team player." Reading everyone's experiences here, especially about the timeline of raising safety concerns versus when disciplinary actions started, makes me realize I should probably file for unemployment too. I've been hesitating because I thought getting fired automatically disqualified you, but it sounds like the circumstances really matter. The retaliation angle that several people mentioned really resonates with my situation. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories - it's giving me the confidence to actually file my claim instead of just worrying about it.
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Alfredo Lugo
•Your situation sounds really similar to what others have described here! The fact that you were asking about fixing broken equipment and getting proper cleaning supplies - those are absolutely legitimate safety and health concerns, especially in food service. Being labeled as having "attitude problems" for advocating for basic workplace safety is such a classic example of retaliation. I'd definitely encourage you to file - from everything I've read in this thread, NYS Department of Labor takes these kinds of situations seriously. Document everything you can remember about when you raised the concerns versus when they started calling you difficult. Food service has so many health and safety regulations that your requests were probably not just reasonable but legally required. Don't let them intimidate you out of benefits when you were just trying to ensure a safe workplace!
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Natasha Romanova
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - got fired from my delivery job last month for what they called "insubordination" but it was really because I refused to drive the company van that had faulty brakes. I kept telling my supervisor it wasn't safe and needed to be fixed, but they said I was being "difficult" and "not following orders." Finally they terminated me saying I had a "bad attitude" and wasn't "coachable." Reading through all these responses is giving me so much clarity - I had no idea that being fired for raising safety concerns could actually strengthen your unemployment case rather than hurt it. I was so worried about filing because I thought any termination would automatically disqualify me. But seeing how many people here had success, especially those who were initially denied but won on appeal, is really encouraging. I'm going to file this week and make sure to document the timeline of my safety complaints versus when the disciplinary actions started. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is such a lifeline when you're navigating this stressful process!
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Alexis Renard
•Your situation is exactly what everyone's been talking about in this thread - refusing to drive an unsafe vehicle is not insubordination, it's protecting yourself and the public! You absolutely did the right thing by refusing to drive with faulty brakes. That's not being "difficult" - that's following basic safety protocols that any reasonable employer should support. The timeline you mentioned (safety complaints first, then suddenly you're "not coachable") fits the same pattern everyone else has described. When you file your claim, definitely emphasize that you were terminated for refusing to operate unsafe equipment - NYS Department of Labor will see right through their "bad attitude" excuse. Document everything about those brake issues and your reports to supervisors. You've got a really strong case here!
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