Can self employed get unemployment benefits through NYS Department of Labor?
I've been running a small graphic design business for the past 2 years but work has completely dried up. I haven't had any clients in 3 months and I'm struggling to pay my bills. A friend mentioned that self-employed people might be able to get unemployment now but I thought that was only during COVID. Can I actually file for regular unemployment benefits with NYS Department of Labor as a self-employed person? I never paid into the system since I was my own boss. Really confused about this whole thing and need to know if it's worth applying or if I'll just get rejected.
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Eva St. Cyr
Unfortunately, self-employed individuals cannot qualify for regular unemployment insurance (UI) benefits in New York. The regular UI program is only for people who worked as employees and had unemployment taxes withheld from their paychecks. Since you were self-employed, you didn't pay into the unemployment insurance system, so you're not eligible for those benefits. The Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program that helped self-employed people ended in September 2021.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
•That's what I was afraid of. So there's literally nothing available for self-employed people anymore? This is so frustrating.
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Kristian Bishop
wait I thought they changed the rules??? my cousin got unemployment last year and she was doing uber driving
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Kaitlyn Otto
•Uber drivers are actually classified as employees in New York now, not self-employed contractors. That's why your cousin could get benefits. But true self-employed people like graphic designers still can't qualify for regular UI.
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Axel Far
The system is so messed up. I was in the same boat when my consulting business failed in 2023. Couldn't get unemployment, couldn't get any help. Had to take a part-time retail job just to survive. It's like they want small business owners to fail. You might want to look into other assistance programs though - maybe SNAP benefits or emergency rental assistance if you qualify.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
•Did you end up finding any other programs that helped? I'm getting desperate here and don't know what options I have left.
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Axel Far
•I applied for SNAP and got approved pretty quickly. Also looked into local food banks and utility assistance programs. It's not much but every little bit helps when you're struggling.
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Jasmine Hernandez
Have you considered applying for jobs as an employee? If you get hired somewhere and then get laid off, you'd be eligible for unemployment benefits at that point. I know it's not ideal but it might be worth exploring if your business isn't picking up. At least then you'd have some income coming in and potential unemployment coverage if things don't work out.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
•Yeah I've been thinking about that. It just feels like giving up on my business but I might not have a choice at this point.
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Connor O'Neill
Unfortunately, traditional unemployment insurance through NYS Department of Labor is only available if you were an employee who had taxes withheld from your paychecks. Self-employed individuals generally don't qualify for regular UI benefits because you haven't been paying into the system. However, you might want to check if there are any other state assistance programs available.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•That's what I was afraid of. Are there any exceptions or workarounds? I really need some kind of income support right now.
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Hazel Garcia
Unfortunately, self-employed individuals and independent contractors are not eligible for regular unemployment insurance benefits through NYS Department of Labor. The regular UI program only covers employees who have had unemployment taxes paid on their behalf by employers. Since you were 1099, no unemployment taxes were paid into the system for you. The pandemic programs that covered self-employed (PUA) ended in 2021 and haven't been renewed.
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Salim Nasir
•That's what I was afraid of hearing. So there's literally no safety net for people like me? What are we supposed to do during slow periods?
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Luis Johnson
Just want to add that if you do decide to look for employee work, make sure you understand how NYS Department of Labor calculates your benefit amount. Since you wouldn't have much recent W-2 income, your weekly benefit might be pretty low initially. But it's still better than nothing when you're struggling to make ends meet.
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LunarEclipse
wait i thought they changed this during covid?? i know some freelancers who got benefits
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Laila Fury
You might want to look into other state assistance programs even though regular unemployment won't work. SNAP benefits don't require you to have been an employee, and there might be emergency assistance programs in your county. Also, if you're looking to transition back to regular employment, you could potentially qualify for UI benefits once you start working for an employer again.
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Salim Nasir
•Thanks, I'll look into SNAP. Do you know if there are any programs specifically for small business owners who are struggling?
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Yara Khalil
The pandemic-era programs like PUA (Pandemic Unemployment Assistance) that covered self-employed workers ended in September 2021. Regular NYS Department of Labor unemployment insurance still requires you to have been an employee with wages reported by an employer. If you were misclassified as an independent contractor when you should have been an employee, that's a different situation that might qualify you.
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Zainab Ibrahim
•All my work has been genuine freelance contracts with different clients. Doesn't sound like I have any options then.
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Keisha Brown
•Actually, you should still apply and let NYS Department of Labor make the determination. Sometimes there are edge cases or you might have some W-2 income you forgot about. I had a friend who was mostly self-employed but had some part-time work that qualified her for a small benefit amount.
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Paolo Esposito
this system is so unfair... self employed people pay taxes too but get nothing when things go bad. meanwhile people who get laid off get benefits for months
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Geoff Richards
wait i thought self employed could get unemployment? my cousin got it in 2020 when her business closed
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Hazel Garcia
•That was the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program which was a temporary federal program that ended in September 2021. It specifically covered self-employed, independent contractors, and gig workers during the COVID emergency. Those benefits are no longer available.
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Connor O'Neill
If you do decide to apply anyway, you'll need to contact NYS Department of Labor directly to discuss your specific situation. The online application might not be set up for your circumstances. I've heard people have trouble getting through on the phone though - there's actually a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps people reach NYS Department of Labor agents. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works.
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Amina Toure
•Never heard of that service before but honestly anything is better than trying to call the regular number and getting hung up on constantly.
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Simon White
I'm in a similar boat - freelance graphic designer and work has been terrible since December. The thing that's really frustrating is that I've been paying into the system through my part-time W2 job but because most of my income was 1099, I probably wouldn't qualify for much even if I lost the W2 job. The unemployment system really wasn't designed for people like us who have mixed income sources.
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Salim Nasir
•Oh interesting, so if you have some W2 income you might still qualify for something? I did do a few small projects as a contractor last year where they took out taxes.
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Hazel Garcia
•If you had W2 employment where unemployment taxes were paid, you could potentially qualify for benefits based on that employment. Your benefit amount would be calculated based on your W2 wages only, not your 1099 income. You'd need to meet the minimum earnings requirements from covered employment.
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Oliver Weber
You might also want to look into other assistance programs like SNAP or emergency rental assistance while you're figuring out your next steps. Being self-employed definitely makes things more complicated but there might be other safety nets available.
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Hugo Kass
Have you considered reaching out to NYS Department of Labor directly to discuss your situation? Sometimes there are programs or resources they can point you toward that aren't widely advertised. I know calling them can be a nightmare - I spent hours trying to get through last month about my own claim. Someone mentioned a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you actually reach a live agent at NYS Department of Labor without waiting on hold forever. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works. Might be worth checking out if you want to speak with someone about your options.
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Salim Nasir
•I hadn't thought about calling them directly. I assumed they'd just tell me what everyone else is saying but maybe they know about other programs. Thanks for the tip about that service too.
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Nasira Ibanez
The whole system is messed up honestly. Self-employed people pay tons of taxes but when we need help there's nothing available. Meanwhile people who work for companies get unemployment benefits. It's not fair at all.
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Geoff Richards
•seriously! and then they tell us to just get a regular job like it's that easy
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Sean O'Donnell
I'm really sorry to hear about your situation. Unfortunately, as others have mentioned, regular unemployment insurance through NYS Department of Labor is only available to employees who had unemployment taxes paid on their behalf by employers. Since you were self-employed, you wouldn't qualify for traditional UI benefits. The PUA program that helped self-employed people during COVID ended in September 2021. However, don't give up entirely - you might want to look into other assistance programs like SNAP, emergency rental assistance, or local food banks to help bridge the gap while you figure out your next steps. Also, if you do any contract work where you're misclassified as 1099 when you should be W2, that could potentially change things. It's a tough situation but there might be other resources available to help you through this difficult time.
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Norman Fraser
•Thanks Sean, this is really helpful. I think I'll look into SNAP and see what other local assistance programs are available. It's frustrating that there's no safety net for self-employed people, but at least there might be some other options to help me get through this rough patch. I appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and advice.
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Ryan Young
I feel for you - I went through something similar when my freelance writing business crashed in 2022. Unfortunately, the harsh reality is that self-employed people like us don't qualify for regular unemployment benefits because we never paid into the system. The PUA program that helped during COVID was our one shot at unemployment assistance and it's long gone. What really helped me was getting on SNAP benefits quickly (the application process was easier than I expected) and connecting with local assistance programs through 211 (dial 2-1-1 for info). I also had to swallow my pride and take a part-time retail job while slowly rebuilding my client base on the side. It's not ideal but sometimes we have to pivot to survive. Don't view taking employee work as giving up on your business - think of it as creating stability while you rebuild. You can always scale back the employee work once your design business picks up again.
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