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Why is the April and May estimated tax period two months instead of three?

I've been filling out my estimated tax payments for this year, and I noticed something weird about the estimated payment periods. They don't seem evenly distributed across the year. The first period (April-May) is only two months long while the others are three or four months. Doesn't that seem strange? Shouldn't they be evenly quarterly? Also, I'm wondering about that final payment period. If I end up owing less than $1,000 for that last period, could I just wait and pay it before April 15th of the following year instead of making the January estimated payment? Trying to understand if there's flexibility here or if I absolutely need to make all four payments regardless of the amount.

The estimated tax payment periods do seem uneven at first glance, but there's a logical reason behind it. The IRS designed the system to align with income earning patterns throughout the year. The first "quarter" (April-May) is shorter because it's designed to capture income earned from January through March, which you're reporting in April. The second period (June-August) covers income from April-May, and so on. Since the tax year ends December 31, but final taxes aren't due until April 15, they had to structure the quarterly payments this way to cover the entire year. Regarding your question about owing less than $1,000 - that's actually a threshold for the entire year's tax liability, not just a single quarter. If your total tax liability minus withholdings will be less than $1,000 for the entire year, you're not required to make any estimated payments. However, if your total tax due will be more than $1,000, you should make all four quarterly payments to avoid potential underpayment penalties.

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Mei Zhang

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Thanks for explaining that! But I'm still confused about one thing - if I've been making my quarterly payments all year but then realize in December that my last quarter will be under $1,000, can I skip that last payment specifically, or does the $1,000 rule only apply to the whole year's taxes?

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The $1,000 threshold applies to your total tax liability for the year, not to individual quarterly payments. So if you've been making quarterly payments all year, and your total remaining tax due will still be $1,000 or more after accounting for all withholdings and previous estimated payments, you should still make that final estimated payment. If you want to avoid penalties, you need to have paid (through withholding and/or estimated payments) either 90% of this year's tax liability or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), whichever is smaller. This is typically calculated for the full year, not quarter by quarter. If you skip that last payment and end up owing more than $1,000 when you file, you might face an underpayment penalty for that quarter.

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Something else to consider about those uneven estimated tax periods - they're designed this way partly because of how income tax itself works. Since we pay taxes on a calendar year basis (Jan-Dec) but the filing deadline isn't until April 15th of the following year, they had to create a system that bridges that gap. I've found it helpful to think about estimated taxes based on WHEN I earn the money rather than the payment due dates. Any money I earn January-March, I pay taxes on by April 15th. Money earned April-May, I pay by June 15th, and so on. Once I started thinking about it that way, the weird periods made more sense.

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Dmitry Volkov

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But doesn't this system unfairly penalize people who earn most of their income early in the year? If someone makes 90% of their yearly income in January-March, they have to pay a huge estimated payment in April while someone who earns evenly throughout the year gets to spread their payments out.

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That's a really good point, but there's actually a solution for people with uneven income throughout the year. It's called the "annualized income installment method" and it allows you to make uneven quarterly payments based on when you actually earned the income. Instead of paying 25% of your estimated annual tax each quarter, you can calculate each quarterly payment based only on the income you've earned so far that year. You'll need to file Form 2210 with your tax return to show these calculations. This method is specifically designed for people with seasonal businesses or fluctuating income who earn more in some parts of the year than others.

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Ava Thompson

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Does anyone know if there's a good tax software that makes calculating these estimated payments easier? I've been using TurboTax but it doesn't seem to have a good way to project for the upcoming year or help me figure out these quarterly amounts.

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CyberSiren

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I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA last year and it has a pretty decent estimated tax calculator. Not as fancy as some dedicated tools, but it lets you input projected income for the coming year and spits out vouchers with the recommended payment for each quarter. And it's way cheaper than TurboTax.

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I've been dealing with estimated taxes for years as a small business owner, and I think there's another important point that hasn't been mentioned yet. The IRS actually gives you some flexibility with the safe harbor rules that can make this whole process less stressful. If you pay either 90% of this year's tax liability OR 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) through withholding and estimated payments, you won't face underpayment penalties - even if you end up owing more when you file. This means you can use last year's tax return as a baseline for your quarterly payments, which is especially helpful if your income varies significantly. For the uneven quarterly periods, I've found it easier to just set up automatic payments for the same amount each quarter based on last year's taxes. It's not perfectly optimized, but it keeps me safe from penalties and I can adjust when I file my return. Sometimes the peace of mind is worth paying a little extra during the year.

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Zara Shah

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to making estimated payments and was getting overwhelmed by all the calculations. Using last year's tax liability as a baseline sounds much more manageable than trying to predict this year's income perfectly. Quick question - when you say "set up automatic payments," do you mean through the IRS website or your bank? I'm worried about missing a due date since I'm still learning all these quarterly deadlines.

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