Why is my tax refund so low this year with zero withholding?

I'm really confused about my estimated tax refund for this year. I've been using one of those online tax calculators and it's only showing around $800 for my refund. This seems super low to me. I worked at Safeway for the first part of the year where I made about $17,800, and at my current job I've made approximately $38,500. I always claim zero dependents on my W-4 for maximum withholding at both jobs. I'm single, just graduated college last year, and don't have any property or anything. I did make a charitable donation of about $400 this year if that matters. I thought claiming zero would give me a bigger refund at tax time? Any insights would be appreciated - just trying to understand why it's so much lower than I expected.

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18 comments

Justin Evans

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The issue might be that you're working two jobs and each employer is withholding taxes as if that's your only income. When you work multiple jobs, each employer typically calculates withholding based only on what they pay you, not your total income from all sources. Since tax brackets are progressive, when you combine your income from both jobs on your tax return, you might end up in a higher tax bracket than what either employer withheld for. Essentially, each job's payroll system doesn't "know" about the other job, so they're likely under-withholding overall. Having zero allowances helps, but may not completely solve this issue with multiple income sources. This is a common surprise for people with more than one job.

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Ezra Collins

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Ezra Collins

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Benjamin Johnson

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Zara Perez

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Aaliyah Reed

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Ella Russell

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Yes, a smaller refund (or even breaking even) generally means you've managed your withholding more efficiently. Think of it this way - if you get a $3,000 refund, that means you gave the government an extra $250 per month that you could have had in your paycheck instead. Many people use tax refunds as a forced savings method, which is understandable. But financially speaking, it's better to have that money available to you throughout the year - for emergencies, to pay down debt, or to invest. If you're disciplined enough, you could set up automatic transfers of that extra money to a savings account and end up with the same lump sum plus interest.

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