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Sofia Rodriguez

Why do noncovered securities sales exist and what causes missing cost basis info?

I've been doing some personal investing for the past couple years and recently went through my first tax season where I had to report some stock sales. I'm totally confused about why some of my stocks are listed as "noncovered securities" on my brokerage statements. Most of my stocks have the cost basis clearly reported, but for a few of them, the basis isn't being reported to the IRS, and on some the cost basis is completely missing from my statements. This is driving me crazy because I have to track down this information myself! If the brokerage has the info for most of my stocks, why not all of them? Is this some kind of weird tax loophole or just an annoying glitch in the system? My first thought was maybe it has something to do with these particular stocks being transferred from my old brokerage account when I switched last year, but shouldn't that information transfer over too? Anyone know why this noncovered securities thing exists in the first place?

Dmitry Ivanov

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The distinction between covered and noncovered securities comes down to when you acquired them. Starting in 2011, brokerages were required to start tracking and reporting cost basis information to the IRS, but this was phased in over several years. Stocks purchased in 2011 or later are generally "covered" securities, meaning the brokerage must report the cost basis to the IRS. Anything purchased before that is considered "noncovered," and the reporting responsibility falls on you. The rollover from another brokerage situation you mentioned is actually a common cause. When securities transfer between brokerages, sometimes the cost basis information doesn't transfer cleanly, especially for older holdings. The original purchase information might not have been digitized properly or may have been lost in transition. Different security types were also phased in at different times - stocks in 2011, mutual funds in 2012, and certain bonds and options in 2014 and 2016. So depending on what type of security it is and when you bought it, that determines whether the brokerage is required to report it.

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Ava Thompson

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This is helpful, but I'm still confused. I definitely bought all my stocks after 2018, so they should all be covered according to what you're saying. Could there be other reasons why some would show up as noncovered? Also, how am I supposed to figure out the cost basis if I don't have the original purchase confirmation anymore?

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Dmitry Ivanov

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If you purchased all your stocks after 2018, they should generally be covered securities unless there's something unique about them. There are a few other scenarios that could cause this issue. If the shares were gifted to you, inherited, acquired through employee stock plans, or purchased on foreign exchanges, they might be classified as noncovered. For figuring out the missing cost basis, you have several options. Check your email for old trade confirmations or account statements from around the purchase date. If you have the approximate date and price you paid, you can estimate using historical price data from finance websites. Your previous brokerage should still have records they can provide even if the information didn't transfer. As a last resort, if you absolutely cannot determine the basis, the IRS may allow you to use a zero cost basis (meaning you'd pay taxes on the entire proceeds), or you might be able to make a reasonable estimate with documentation of your methodology.

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Connor Murphy

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Paolo Romano

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - some securities become "noncovered" when they go through corporate actions like mergers, spin-offs, or splits. I had this happen with a healthcare stock that split into two companies. The original purchase was covered, but after the split, one of the resulting companies showed up as noncovered because the basis allocation got messed up. If this happens, you need to calculate how much of your original investment went to each new security. There's usually a formula provided in the corporate action documentation, but brokerages don't always implement it correctly in their systems. Worth checking if any of your noncovered securities went through corporate actions.

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Amina Diop

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Is there any official IRS form or documentation needed when you're reporting a noncovered security and calculating your own basis? I'm worried about getting flagged for audit if my numbers don't match what the brokerage reported.

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Paolo Romano

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There's no special IRS form specifically for noncovered securities. You report them on the same Schedule D and Form 8949 as your covered securities. The key difference is that you'll check box C (short-term) or box F (long-term) on Form 8949 to indicate these transactions were reported to the IRS without basis. The most important thing is maintaining good records of how you determined your basis. Keep documentation of your calculation method, especially for complex situations like corporate actions or inherited stocks. If you receive information from your brokerage that differs from your records, you can file Form 8949 with an adjustment explanation in column (g) and the correct basis in column (e). This creates a paper trail showing you made a good faith effort to report accurately.

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Another situation that creates noncovered securities: foreign stocks or ADRs purchased on international exchanges! I found this out the hard way with some European stocks I bought. US brokerages often can't or don't track the basis for these properly.

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That makes so much sense! I have some Canadian stocks that show as noncovered and I couldn't figure out why. Do you have to do currency conversion calculations too when reporting these?

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Yara Haddad

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Yes, you absolutely need to do currency conversion! For foreign stocks, you have to convert both your purchase price and sale price to USD using the exchange rates on the respective transaction dates. The IRS requires all tax reporting to be in US dollars. You can use the Federal Reserve's historical exchange rates or other reliable sources like XE.com for the conversions. Keep records of which exchange rates you used and from what source - this documentation will be important if you're ever audited. It's definitely more work than domestic stocks, but it's required for accurate reporting.

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Ella Russell

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I have a mix of covered and noncovered securities, and it's been a nightmare trying to figure out my cost basis for tax reporting. One thing I'd add is that if you're working with a tax professional, make sure to bring all your documentation early in the process. I learned this lesson when my CPA had to file an extension because we couldn't track down the basis information for several noncovered positions in time. Even partial records like old account statements or trade confirmations can be helpful - sometimes they contain enough information to reconstruct the missing data. Also, for anyone dealing with employee stock options or ESPP shares that became noncovered after a brokerage transfer, check if your employer's HR department keeps historical records of your equity compensation. They might have the original grant or purchase information that can help establish the correct basis, especially for complex situations involving vesting schedules or discount purchases.

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Great point about working with tax professionals early! I'm actually in my first year dealing with noncovered securities and feeling overwhelmed by all the record-keeping requirements. When you mention bringing "partial records" - what exactly should I be looking for in old statements? I have some old quarterly statements from my previous brokerage, but they don't show individual trade details. Are those still useful, or do I specifically need the trade confirmation emails/documents? Also, did your CPA charge extra for the additional work of reconstructing the missing cost basis information?

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