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Mei Wong

Where to report fixup costs before property sale in a 1031 exchange? (Form 8824 guidance needed)

I've been getting my rental property ready for a 1031 exchange and have spent about $37,000 on various improvements and repairs before listing it. Now I'm confused about how to properly account for these expenses on my tax forms. Some are clearly capital improvements (like $26,000 for a new roof and HVAC system) while others are more maintenance-related (around $11,000 for painting, landscaping, and minor repairs). Do these fixup costs get added to Form 8824 Summary Smart Worksheet line N (Exchange Expenses), or should I add all the fixup expenses to the rental property depreciation schedule "before" the exchange to raise the basis? Or maybe these should go on line O "adjusted basis of like kind property given up"? The property stopped being a rental about 2 months ago when the tenants moved out, and since then I've been fixing it up to get it ready for the exchange. I want to make sure I'm handling this correctly since it's a significant amount of money. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

Liam Sullivan

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You're asking a great question about handling those pre-sale fixup costs in your 1031 exchange. The way you handle these costs depends on their nature. For the capital improvements ($26,000 for roof and HVAC), these should be added to your property's adjusted basis. That means they'd effectively go into line O "adjusted basis of like kind property given up" on Form 8824. Capital improvements increase the basis of the property they're attached to. For the repair/maintenance costs ($11,000 for painting, landscaping, etc.), these are typically deductible expenses in the year they're incurred if they were made while the property was still a rental. However, since you mention these were done after it ceased being a rental but before the exchange, they'd actually be considered "selling expenses" and would go on line N "Exchange expenses." This distinction is important because the two categories receive different tax treatment within your 1031 exchange calculation.

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Mei Wong

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Thanks for the detailed response! So if I understand correctly, I should split the expenses between lines N and O based on whether they're capital improvements or just regular repairs/maintenance? And since all of these expenses happened after the property stopped being a rental, the regular repairs/maintenance go on line N as "selling expenses"?

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Liam Sullivan

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Yes, that's exactly right. The capital improvements ($26,000 for roof and HVAC) get added to your adjusted basis on line O because they're part of the property's long-term value. The repairs and maintenance expenses ($11,000 for painting, etc.) would go on line N as "selling expenses" since they were incurred after the property was no longer generating rental income but were necessary to prepare it for sale as part of the exchange. This treatment makes sense because these costs are directly connected to the disposition of the property rather than its operation as a rental.

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Sofia Torres

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My tax guy handled this situation last year and he put all the pre-sale capital improvements (roof, electrical panel, etc) directly on the depreciation schedule to increase the basis before selling. Then any regular maintenance stuff like painting and minor repairs went as selling expenses on form 8824 line N. The key thing he explained is that capital improvements have to be properly depreciated if you're still treating it as a rental when the work is done. But it sounds like yours was no longer a rental when you did the improvements, which might change things.

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Mei Wong

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That's interesting. So it sounds like timing matters a lot here. Since my property was no longer a rental when I did the improvements (tenants had moved out and I was prepping it for sale), would that change how I should handle the capital improvements? Would they still go on the depreciation schedule or directly to Form 8824?

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Yes, timing definitely matters here. Since your property was no longer being used as a rental when you made the improvements, the treatment is a bit different. In your case, the capital improvements ($26,000 for roof and HVAC) would not go on the depreciation schedule for the rental period. Instead, those capital improvements would directly increase your adjusted basis of the property being exchanged and would be reported on Form 8824, line O "adjusted basis of like-kind property given up." You wouldn't depreciate these new improvements at all since they were made after the property stopped being used for business purposes.

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Ava Martinez

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I'd suggest also considering the 95-day rule with capital improvements in a 1031 exchange. If you're buying a replacement property, improvements made within 95 days after closing can be considered part of the exchange value. Might not apply to your situation since you're asking about the relinquished property, but worth noting for the complete picture.

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Miguel Ramos

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Actually, the 95-day rule isn't correct. For 1031 exchange replacement properties, improvements must be identified within the 45-day identification period and completed within the 180-day exchange period to be considered part of the exchange. There's no specific 95-day rule in 1031 exchanges.

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