What happens to employers' FICA share when employees had multiple jobs and excess SS was withheld?
I'm trying to figure out how the employer side of FICA taxes works in an interesting situation. I understand that when an employee works multiple jobs and has too much Social Security tax withheld (over the annual wage base limit), they can claim that excess as a credit on their 1040 when filing taxes. But what about the employers in this scenario? Let's say I had two jobs in 2024 - one paid me $120,000 and the other paid $85,000. Both employers withheld SS tax up to their respective wages, which means I had SS tax withheld on $205,000 total when the wage base limit was only $168,600. I know I'll get that excess back when I file my taxes. My question is: do the employers get any relief on their matching portion of SS tax? Or are both employers still required to pay their full 6.2% share on all wages they paid me, even though combined it exceeds the wage base limit? Does the second employer have any recourse to recover their "excess" contribution, or is that just how the system works?
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Mei Chen
Great question about how FICA works with multiple employers! The short answer is that employers do NOT get any relief or refund for their share of Social Security tax paid on wages that collectively exceed the wage base limit. Each employer is required to withhold Social Security tax (6.2%) on an employee's wages up to the annual wage base limit ($168,600 for 2024, $175,200 for 2025), and they must also match that amount as the employer portion. The system doesn't have a mechanism for employers to know about other employment relationships or coordinate withholding. While you as the employee will get the excess employee portion back as a credit when you file your tax return, the employers don't get similar treatment. Both employers in your example would each pay their 6.2% on the wages they paid you, even though the combined amount exceeds the wage base limit. This is simply how the system is designed - the wage base limit applies to individuals, not to the total FICA taxes paid on a person's behalf.
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Liam O'Sullivan
•So if I understand this right, if someone works for 3 different companies in a year and makes $100k at each one, all three employers pay the full SS tax on their $100k portion even though the employee's total earnings are way over the limit? Seems kind of unfair to the employers, doesn't it? Or am I missing something?
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Mei Chen
•You've understood correctly. If someone works for 3 different companies and earns $100k at each one, all three employers would indeed pay the full employer portion of Social Security tax on their respective $100k of wages, despite the total earnings being well above the wage base limit. It might seem unfair, but the system was designed this way for practical reasons. Employers have no way to know how much an employee has earned elsewhere or what other employers have withheld. The alternative would require a complex reporting system where employers would need real-time information about their employees' total earnings across all jobs, which would be administratively challenging and raise privacy concerns.
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Amara Okonkwo
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Giovanni Marino
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Fatima Al-Sayed
•I'm skeptical of these tax tools - can it actually tell you something that's not already available on the IRS website? And does it just give general info or does it actually calculate specific amounts based on your situation?
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Amara Okonkwo
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Giovanni Marino
I just tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and WOW it actually helped me understand my multi-employer situation! I had W-2 income plus a side business (Schedule C) and was super confused about how the SS wage base limit applied across both. The tool showed me that my W-2 jobs had already withheld close to the maximum SS tax, which meant I only needed to pay a small portion of the regular SE tax rate on my self-employment income. This literally saved me over $2,300 in self-employment tax that I would have unnecessarily paid! It even generated a calculation sheet I can keep with my tax records to explain the reduced SE tax calculation. Seriously wish I had known about this last year when I was in the same boat and overpaid. Might even look into filing an amended return now.
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Dylan Hughes
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NightOwl42
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? I don't get how they can get through when nobody else can.
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Fatima Al-Sayed
•Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS these days. I've tried calling dozens of times about my business taxes and always get the "call volume too high" message. Hard to believe any service could actually help with that consistently.
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Dylan Hughes
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Fatima Al-Sayed
Ok I have to eat my words. I tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment because I was desperate to resolve an issue with my business's payroll tax deposits. I figured it wouldn't work but was worth a shot since nothing else was working. Amazingly, I got connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes! After weeks of trying on my own! The agent clarified that while my business does have to pay the employer portion of FICA on all wages (even if they exceed the SS wage base when combined with other employers), there's a specific procedure for correcting overpayments if I accidentally paid more than required on a single employee at my company. Saved me hours of research and frustration. Can't believe I wasted so much time trying to call them myself.
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Sofia Rodriguez
Just to add a little more nuance here - the employer portion of Medicare tax (1.45%) has no wage base limit at all. So employers always pay this on all wages regardless. It's only the Social Security portion (6.2%) that has the wage base limit ($168,600 for 2024). Also worth noting that even for self-employed people who pay both halves, the wage base limit still applies to the Social Security portion of self-employment tax. So if you've already hit the limit through W-2 employment, you won't owe the 12.4% Social Security portion on your self-employment income (though you'll still owe the 2.9% Medicare portion).
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Dmitry Ivanov
•Does the additional Medicare tax (0.9%) for high earners apply to the employer too, or just the employee portion?
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Sofia Rodriguez
•The Additional Medicare Tax of 0.9% only applies to the employee portion, not the employer portion. Employers don't have to pay any matching amount for this additional tax. They're only responsible for withholding it from employees' wages when they exceed the threshold ($200,000 for single filers, $250,000 for married filing jointly). This additional tax is completely separate from the standard employer obligations. The employer still pays their standard 1.45% Medicare tax on all wages with no limit, while certain high-income employees pay their standard 1.45% plus the additional 0.9% on amounts above the threshold.
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Ava Thompson
Just to clarify something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - this whole FICA "excess withholding" issue only applies to the Social Security portion (6.2%), not the Medicare portion (1.45%). There's no wage base limit for Medicare tax - you pay that on all earnings regardless of how much you make. And regarding the employer portion - I double checked with my company's payroll department, and they confirmed they have no mechanism to get back the "excess" employer portion of Social Security tax when an employee works multiple jobs and exceeds the wage base. Each employer is responsible for their matching contribution on wages they pay, period.
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Miguel Herrera
•I wonder if Congress has ever considered changing this? Seems like with modern technology there could be a way for the SSA to refund employers for excess contributions, especially since they know exactly who overpaid when employees file for their own refund.
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Yuki Tanaka
That's an interesting policy question! There have actually been some discussions about this over the years, but the administrative complexity would be enormous. The current system essentially treats each employer-employee relationship independently, which keeps things simpler from a compliance standpoint. If employers could get refunds for "excess" Social Security contributions, the SSA would need to: 1. Track every employee's total earnings across all employers in real-time 2. Determine which employers paid "excess" amounts 3. Process refunds to multiple employers for the same employee 4. Handle disputes when employers disagree about who should get refunded Plus, there's the timing issue - employees often don't file their tax returns until months after the tax year ends, so employers wouldn't know about potential refunds until well after payroll was processed. This would create cash flow complications for businesses. The current system, while perhaps not perfectly "fair," is much more administratively feasible. Each employer pays based on what they know (their own payroll), and the individual employee gets the credit since they're the only one who knows their total earnings across all jobs.
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Jamal Carter
•That makes total sense from an administrative perspective. I never thought about the timing issue - by the time someone files their taxes and discovers the overpayment, the employers have already submitted their quarterly payroll tax deposits months ago. Trying to unwind all of that across multiple employers would be a nightmare. It's actually pretty clever how the system puts the "burden" of tracking total earnings on the individual employee, since they're the only one who has complete visibility into all their income sources. The employers just focus on their piece of the puzzle, and the employee gets made whole through the tax refund process.
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Dmitry Sokolov
This is such a great breakdown of how the multi-employer FICA system works! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now - working two jobs that will put me over the SS wage base limit for 2025. One thing I'm curious about: does the IRS provide any guidance to employers about how to handle this situation when they become aware of it? Like, if an employer somehow finds out that their employee is likely to exceed the wage base across multiple jobs, are they still required to withhold the full amount, or can they proactively adjust? I'm guessing the answer is that they still have to withhold based on their own payroll records, but it would be interesting to know if there's any flexibility in the system for employers who want to help their employees avoid overwithholding.
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Sophie Duck
•Great question! According to IRS regulations, employers must withhold Social Security tax based solely on the wages they pay to that employee - they can't adjust withholding based on assumptions about other employment. Even if an employer knows their employee works elsewhere and might exceed the wage base limit, they're still required to withhold the full 6.2% on wages up to the limit at their company. This is actually a protection for both the employer and employee. If employers could make their own judgments about reducing withholding, it could lead to underwithholding situations where the employee ends up owing money at tax time instead of getting a refund. The only exception would be if the employee works multiple jobs at related companies (like subsidiaries of the same parent company), where the wages can be aggregated for FICA purposes. But for completely separate, unrelated employers, each must treat the employee independently and withhold based on their own payroll records. So unfortunately, even well-meaning employers can't help their employees avoid overwithholding in this situation - the system is designed to err on the side of overwithholding, with the correction happening when the individual files their tax return.
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Dmitry Smirnov
This has been a really enlightening discussion! I'm a tax professional and deal with this question frequently from clients who work multiple jobs. One additional point worth mentioning is that this "excess employer contribution" issue becomes even more pronounced for seasonal workers or those in industries with high turnover. For example, I've seen cases where someone works for 5-6 different employers throughout the year (think retail seasonal work, gig economy, consulting projects), each paying wages that individually stay well under the SS wage base limit. But combined, these wages far exceed the limit, meaning 5-6 different employers are all paying their full employer portion of Social Security tax on wages for the same person. From a policy perspective, this creates a situation where the Social Security system actually collects more in employer contributions than it theoretically should based on the wage base limit concept. While employees get their excess back through tax refunds, the "excess" employer contributions essentially become additional revenue for the Social Security Trust Fund. It's one of those quirks in the tax system that most people never think about, but it can represent significant amounts of money when you consider how many Americans work multiple jobs these days.
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Anthony Young
•That's a fascinating perspective I hadn't considered before! You're absolutely right that the gig economy and seasonal work patterns have probably amplified this issue significantly. When I think about someone doing DoorDash, working retail during the holidays, plus maybe some freelance work and a part-time office job, that could easily be 4+ different employers all paying their full employer FICA contributions. It's almost like an unintended consequence of how the modern workforce has evolved - the system was probably designed back when most people had one primary employer for the whole year. Now with multiple income streams being so common, the Social Security Trust Fund is essentially getting a "bonus" from all these excess employer contributions that never get refunded. Makes me wonder what the total dollar amount of these excess employer contributions is across the entire economy. Probably millions of dollars annually that just stays in the system as extra revenue. From the Trust Fund's perspective, I guess that's not a bad problem to have given all the long-term solvency concerns!
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Zara Ahmed
This discussion really highlights something fascinating about our tax system that most people never realize. As someone who's worked in payroll for over 15 years, I can confirm that this "excess employer contribution" scenario has become incredibly common, especially post-2020 when remote work made it easier for people to juggle multiple jobs. What's particularly interesting is that the IRS has actually acknowledged this issue in some of their technical guidance, but they've consistently maintained that changing the system would be too administratively complex. I've seen internal memos suggesting they're aware that the Social Security Trust Fund receives these "windfall" employer contributions, but there's been no serious push to modify the regulations. From an employer's perspective, it can be frustrating because we're essentially penalized for not having visibility into our employees' other income sources. But from a system design standpoint, I understand why they keep it simple - the alternative would require real-time income reporting across all employers, which would be a massive technological and privacy challenge. One thing I always tell clients is to factor this into their cash flow planning if they have employees who likely work multiple jobs. Those employer FICA contributions are gone for good, unlike the employee portions that can be recovered through tax refunds.
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Anastasia Kozlov
•This is really eye-opening! As someone new to understanding tax complexities, I had no idea that employers essentially "lose" money in multi-job scenarios while only employees get refunds. It seems like there's a built-in unfairness where businesses bear the cost of a system limitation. Your point about factoring this into cash flow planning is really practical advice. For small businesses especially, those excess FICA contributions could add up to significant amounts over time if they frequently hire people who work multiple jobs. Do you have any sense of whether larger corporations with more sophisticated payroll systems have found any workarounds, or is everyone just stuck with this limitation regardless of company size? Also, has there been any movement in Congress or at the IRS to at least study the total dollar impact of these excess contributions? It seems like basic transparency would require knowing how much "windfall" revenue the Social Security Trust Fund is receiving from this quirk.
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Emma Morales
•@b92fc0aa5e6d Your insights from the payroll industry perspective are really valuable! Regarding workarounds - from what I've observed, even the largest corporations with sophisticated payroll systems are bound by the same regulatory limitations. The issue isn't technological capability, it's that the law simply doesn't provide a mechanism for employers to coordinate or get refunds for excess contributions. I haven't seen any comprehensive studies on the total dollar impact, but given that about 5% of workers hold multiple jobs according to BLS data, and considering average wage levels, we're probably talking about hundreds of millions in excess employer contributions annually. The closest thing I've seen to official acknowledgment was in a 2019 Treasury Inspector General report that briefly mentioned the issue in the context of payroll tax compliance, but it didn't quantify the amounts. You're absolutely right about the impact on small businesses - they often have employees working part-time who supplement with other jobs, so they're disproportionately affected. Unlike large corporations that might absorb this as a cost of doing business, small employers really feel every extra dollar in payroll taxes. It's one of those hidden costs of the current system that doesn't get much attention in policy discussions.
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Hunter Brighton
This has been such an informative thread! As someone who recently started working two part-time jobs while in graduate school, I had no idea about these FICA complexities. Reading through all the explanations, it's clear that the system essentially creates a windfall for Social Security from excess employer contributions that never get refunded. What strikes me most is how this affects different types of workers differently. Traditional full-time employees with one job never encounter this issue, while people juggling multiple part-time positions (often out of economic necessity) end up costing their employers extra money through no fault of anyone involved. It's an interesting example of how tax policy designed for one era doesn't always adapt well to changing work patterns. The point about seasonal workers and gig economy participants is especially relevant - these are often people already dealing with income volatility, and now their employers are also paying extra FICA taxes that can't be recovered. Makes me wonder if this contributes to some employers' reluctance to hire part-time workers when they know those workers likely have other jobs too. Thanks to everyone who shared their expertise here. This is exactly the kind of nuanced tax information that's hard to find elsewhere!
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PixelWarrior
•You've really hit on something important about how this affects different types of workers! As someone who's been following this discussion closely, I'm struck by the broader economic implications you've raised. The fact that employers might be hesitant to hire part-time workers knowing they could face these excess FICA contributions is a concern I hadn't fully considered. It seems like this creates a subtle but real barrier to employment flexibility that could disproportionately impact students, parents seeking work-life balance, or people transitioning between careers - exactly the groups who often need multiple part-time positions. The irony is that a system designed to protect workers (Social Security) might inadvertently make it harder for certain workers to find employment opportunities. Your observation about this being tax policy from a different era is spot-on. When the current FICA structure was established, the "one person, one job" model was much more common. Now that multiple income streams are increasingly necessary for many people, we're seeing these unintended consequences play out in real economic terms for both workers and employers. Thanks for bringing a fresh perspective to this discussion - it really helps illustrate how technical tax rules can have very human impacts on people's employment opportunities and financial situations!
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Giovanni Rossi
This entire discussion has been incredibly enlightening! As a small business owner who recently started hiring more part-time employees, I had no idea about these FICA complexities. What really concerns me after reading through all these responses is the practical impact on hiring decisions. When I know that a potential employee likely works other jobs (which is common in my industry), I'm essentially signing up to pay excess FICA contributions that I'll never get back. For a small business operating on tight margins, this can add up to thousands of dollars annually in what amounts to an involuntary contribution to the Social Security Trust Fund. The points about seasonal workers and gig economy participants are particularly relevant to my business. I often hire people for short-term projects who I know have other income sources, and now I realize each of us employers is probably paying the full employer portion even though collectively we're way over the wage base limit for those individuals. It seems like this issue has gotten worse as the workforce has become more flexible and people increasingly need multiple income streams. The tax system hasn't adapted to modern work patterns, and businesses are bearing the cost of that mismatch. I wonder if small business associations have ever lobbied for changes to this system, or if we're all just supposed to accept it as a cost of doing business in today's economy.
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Amara Nwosu
•Your concerns as a small business owner really highlight one of the most problematic aspects of this system! What you're describing - essentially paying an involuntary tax penalty for hiring workers who need multiple jobs - creates perverse incentives that hurt both businesses and workers. I'm curious if you've found any ways to factor this into your hiring and compensation decisions? For instance, do you consider offering slightly higher wages to attract employees who might choose to work exclusively for you instead of juggling multiple part-time positions? It seems like there could be situations where paying one person more for full-time work might actually cost less than paying multiple part-time workers when you factor in these excess FICA contributions. The lack of advocacy on this issue from small business associations is surprising, especially given how much they typically focus on payroll tax burdens. This seems like exactly the kind of administrative complexity and unfair cost that would normally generate lobbying efforts. Maybe the issue isn't well understood, or perhaps it gets lost among other payroll tax concerns? It's frustrating that businesses are essentially subsidizing a design flaw in the tax system while employees at least get their excess back through refunds. There really should be more awareness of how these outdated regulations impact modern employment relationships.
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