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Understanding Treasury Bill ETF taxation for SGOV and similar investments

Title: Understanding Treasury Bill ETF taxation for SGOV and similar investments 1 I've recently invested in SGOV (an ETF that holds primarily Treasury bills) and I'm trying to figure out the tax implications. I know that Treasury securities are typically exempt from state and local taxes, but I'm struggling to understand what other taxes might apply. Will I still need to pay capital gains taxes when I sell shares of the ETF? And what about the dividend distributions that come as the underlying Treasury bills mature - are those taxed differently? Some of the descriptions online use terminology that's pretty confusing for a newer investor like me. Would really appreciate if someone could break down exactly how taxation works for Treasury bill ETFs like SGOV. Thanks in advance for any help! 🙏

14 The tax treatment for Treasury Bill ETFs like SGOV can definitely be confusing! Let me break it down for you: 1) Federal Income Tax: The interest income generated by the Treasury bills within the ETF is subject to federal income tax. This is reported to you on Form 1099-DIV as ordinary dividends. 2) State/Local Tax Exemption: You're correct that the interest income from Treasury bills is generally exempt from state and local taxes. The ETF should provide documentation showing what portion of your distributions is exempt. 3) Capital Gains Tax: If you sell your ETF shares for more than you paid, you'll owe capital gains tax on that profit. This is separate from the tax treatment of the interest income. Short-term gains (held less than a year) are taxed at your ordinary income rate, while long-term gains get preferential tax rates. 4) Dividend Distributions: For ETFs like SGOV, the distributions you receive are primarily from the interest earned on the underlying Treasury bills. These distributions are considered ordinary income for federal tax purposes, not qualified dividends. Hope this helps clarify things!

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8 Thanks for the explanation! So just to make sure I understand - when SGOV pays me those monthly distributions, I'll need to pay federal tax on those as ordinary income, but not state tax. And then separately, if I sell my SGOV shares at a profit someday, I'd pay capital gains tax on that profit? Also, does it matter if I'm holding this in a regular brokerage account versus a retirement account like an IRA?

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14 Yes, you've got it right! The monthly distributions from SGOV will be subject to federal income tax as ordinary income, but should be exempt from state/local taxes since they come from Treasury securities. Then separately, if you sell your SGOV shares at a profit, you'd pay capital gains tax on that profit. The account type makes a huge difference. In a traditional IRA or 401(k), you won't pay taxes on any of it until you withdraw from the account in retirement, at which point it's all taxed as ordinary income. In a Roth IRA, assuming you follow all the rules, both the distributions and any capital gains would be completely tax-free when you withdraw in retirement. The state/local tax exemption becomes irrelevant in retirement accounts since they already have their own tax treatment.

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19 How does it handle the breakdown between state-exempt and federally taxable income? My broker's tax documents are confusing me because they don't clearly mark which distributions come from Treasury interest versus other sources in my ETFs.

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12 I'm always skeptical of these tax tools. Does it actually explain WHY certain income is categorized a certain way, or just tell you what box to check? And how does it compare to just asking my accountant?

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7 It actually shows a detailed breakdown of each income source within the ETF and specifically flags the Treasury-sourced income that's state tax exempt. It color-codes different types of income and explains the tax treatment for each one. The tool provides explanations for each tax classification, citing the relevant IRS rules and explaining why Treasury interest in an ETF maintains its state tax exemption despite passing through the fund structure. It's more detailed than what many accountants provide since it's specifically designed for investment tax analysis, but certainly not a replacement for an accountant who handles your complete tax situation.

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3 Wait, how does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. Is this some kind of premium line or something?

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11 It's not a premium line - they use a technology that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When an agent picks up, you get a call back and are connected directly. It basically does the waiting for you. I was skeptical too! But when you've spent hours listening to the same hold music with no results, it's worth trying. The IRS agent I spoke with walked me through the exact tax form sections where Treasury ETF distributions should be reported and confirmed which portions maintain the state tax exemption.

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22 I feel like I need to eat some crow here. After posting my skeptical comment, I was still wrestling with questions about my SGOV and TBIL holdings, so I decided to try Claimyr as a last resort. Within 15 minutes, I was talking to an actual IRS agent who specialized in investment taxation! The agent clarified that while the interest from Treasury bills in ETFs like SGOV does maintain its state/local tax exemption, I still needed to report it properly on my federal return. She also explained how to read the supplemental tax statement from my ETF provider to identify which distributions were Treasury interest versus other income types. Saved me a ton of confusion and potentially an audit flag. Sometimes being proven wrong is actually helpful!

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17 One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're holding Treasury ETFs in a taxable account, you should check if your state has a specific form for claiming the exemption for Treasury interest. Here in California, we have to file a schedule to specifically claim the exemption for interest from U.S. obligations that passes through ETFs and mutual funds.

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2 Do you know if New York requires something similar? I just realized I've probably been overpaying my state taxes for years since I never claimed any exemption for my Treasury ETF income. Is this something I should file amended returns for?

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17 New York does require you to make an adjustment on your state return to claim the exemption for Treasury interest, including what passes through ETFs. You would subtract the exempt income on Form IT-225, specifically using subtraction modification number S-101 for "federal bond interest." If you've been paying New York state tax on Treasury interest that should have been exempt, you might want to consider filing amended returns. Generally, you can amend returns for the past three tax years, so you could potentially recover those overpayments. But you'd need to weigh the potential refund amount against the hassle of filing multiple amended returns.

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5 Does anyone know if there's a minimum percentage of Treasuries that an ETF needs to hold for the distributions to be state tax exempt? I have both SGOV (which is almost entirely Treasuries) and another ETF that's only about 60% Treasuries with the rest in agency bonds and cash.

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14 The state tax exemption applies proportionally based on the percentage of Treasury securities in the ETF. Your fund provider should send you a tax statement showing what percentage of distributions are from Treasury interest. For example, if 60% of your ETF is in Treasuries, then approximately 60% of the distributions would be exempt from state tax. The exact percentage will be on the tax statement - look for something called "percent U.S. government obligations" or similar wording.

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Just wanted to add another important consideration - make sure you're keeping good records of your cost basis for SGOV shares, especially if you're reinvesting distributions. Each reinvestment creates a new tax lot with its own purchase date and cost basis. I use my broker's average cost method for simplicity, but you can also track specific lots if you want more control over which shares you're selling (for tax loss harvesting purposes). The IRS requires you to report your cost basis when you sell, so don't rely solely on your broker's records - keep your own backup documentation. Also, if you're planning to hold Treasury ETFs long-term, consider whether a target-date Treasury ladder might make more sense than an ETF. With individual Treasury bills, you get the same state tax exemption but avoid the ongoing expense ratio of the ETF.

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Great point about record keeping! I learned this the hard way when I tried to calculate my gains on SGOV last year. One thing I'd add - if you're comparing Treasury ETFs to individual Treasury bills, also consider the convenience factor. With ETFs like SGOV, you get automatic reinvestment and don't have to worry about laddering maturities yourself. The expense ratio on SGOV is only about 0.09%, which might be worth it for the simplicity. That said, if you're investing large amounts (like $100k+), buying individual Treasury bills through TreasuryDirect might make more sense since you avoid the expense ratio entirely and still get the same state tax exemption. Just depends on your situation and how hands-on you want to be with managing maturities.

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That's a really helpful breakdown of the convenience vs. cost trade-off! I'm currently investing smaller amounts ($5k-10k range) so the ETF route makes more sense for me right now. Quick question though - when you mention TreasuryDirect, do you still get the same tax reporting documents that make it easy to identify the state tax exempt portions? I'm worried about having to manually calculate everything myself if I go the individual Treasury bill route later on. Also, has anyone here had experience with how brokers handle the tax reporting for Treasury ETFs? My current broker's 1099 forms are pretty basic and I'm wondering if I should consider switching to one that provides more detailed breakdowns.

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TreasuryDirect actually makes tax reporting super straightforward! You get a 1099-INT form that clearly shows the interest earned, and since it's directly from Treasury bills, 100% of that interest is exempt from state and local taxes - no need to calculate percentages like with ETFs. The main downside is that TreasuryDirect's interface is pretty clunky and you have to manually reinvest when bills mature. But for tax reporting purposes, it's actually cleaner than ETFs since there's no ambiguity about what portion is Treasury interest. As for brokers, I've found that Schwab and Fidelity tend to provide more detailed tax statements for ETFs, including better breakdowns of state-exempt income. Vanguard is decent too. The budget brokers sometimes have more basic 1099 forms that require you to dig into the ETF provider's supplemental statements to get the full picture.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with SGOV and have been confused about the tax implications. One additional thing I'd mention for newcomers like us - don't forget that even though Treasury interest is exempt from state taxes, you still need to report it on your federal return as taxable income. I made the mistake of thinking "exempt" meant I didn't have to report it at all and almost missed including it entirely. Also, if you're using tax software like TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA, make sure it's properly categorizing your ETF distributions. I had to manually override mine last year because the software initially treated all my SGOV distributions as regular dividends without recognizing the state tax exemption portion. The learning curve is definitely steep for Treasury ETF taxation, but threads like this make it much clearer. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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This is exactly the kind of mistake I was worried about making! Thanks for sharing that experience with the tax software issue. I'm using TurboTax this year and now I'm wondering if I should double-check how it's handling my SGOV distributions. Do you remember what section you had to manually override, or was it something that showed up during the review process? Also, when you say "report it on your federal return as taxable income" - does that mean the full distribution amount goes on the federal return, and then the state exemption only applies when filing state taxes? I want to make sure I understand the flow correctly before I file.

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