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Yuki Ito

Taxes on Paypal fees for contractor payments? Tax deduction question

I run a small business and have been paying a few independent contractors through Paypal. I'm getting ready for tax season and realized I'm confused about how to handle the Paypal processing fees for tax purposes. Here's my situation - when I pay a contractor $1300, Paypal takes their cut (around $35), so the contractor only receives about $1265. When I'm preparing their 1099 and doing my Schedule C, I'm not sure which amount I should be using. Do I report the full $1300 that I paid, or just the $1265 that the contractor actually received? I want to make sure I'm handling this correctly so nobody gets surprised at tax time. Also wondering if the Paypal fees are separate deductions somewhere else on my return?

Carmen Lopez

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Great question about PayPal fees! The amount you should report on the 1099 is the full amount you paid ($1300 in your example), not the amount after fees. This is because you're reporting what you paid for the service, regardless of any processing fees involved. As for your Schedule C, you'd handle it like this: The full $1300 would be a deductible business expense for the contractor's service. The PayPal fees (the $35) would also be deductible, but as a separate expense category - typically under "bank fees," "transaction fees," or "payment processing fees" depending on how you categorize expenses. So essentially, you're deducting the total of $1335 from your business income, just in two different expense categories.

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks for explaining! So just to make sure I understand - on the 1099-NEC I would report the $1300 even though the contractor only gets $1265? Doesn't that create a discrepancy when they file their taxes since their actual income was less?

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Carmen Lopez

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That's a common concern, but it actually works out correctly. The contractor should report the full $1300 as their income on their Schedule C (assuming they're a sole proprietor). Then, they would deduct the PayPal fee of $35 as a business expense on their own Schedule C. This way, their net income properly reflects what they actually received, while the 1099 properly reflects what you paid them for their services. The PayPal fee becomes a business expense for them, just like it's a separate business expense for you.

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QuantumQuasar

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Does it work with other payment systems too? I use Venmo and Cash App for some contractors and Square for others. The fees are all different and it's honestly a mess trying to keep track.

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Jamal Wilson

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I'm skeptical of these AI tax tools. How accurate is it really? Most of these services just spit out generic advice you could find on the IRS website. Did it actually give you specific advice for your situation?

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QuantumQuasar

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Jamal Wilson

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Mei Lin

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Amara Nnamani

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Mei Lin

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Amara Nnamani

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're issuing 1099s correctly in the first place. You only need to issue them if you paid a contractor $600 or more during the tax year AND the payment was for services (not goods). Also, if you paid through credit card networks or third-party payment networks (like PayPal Business), technically they're supposed to issue a 1099-K to the contractor if they meet the threshold, and you don't need to issue a 1099-NEC at all. But the rules keep changing, so double-check the current requirements.

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Yuki Ito

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Thanks for bringing this up! So if I paid them through PayPal Business, do I still need to issue a 1099-NEC? I thought the threshold for 1099-K was really high, like $20,000? Or did that change recently?

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The 1099-K threshold has been a moving target the past few years. Originally it was dropping to $600 for 2023, but then they delayed it. For 2025 taxes, the threshold is $5,000 - so if your contractor received more than that through PayPal Business, then PayPal should issue them a 1099-K. You still have the option to issue a 1099-NEC if you want to be extra cautious, but technically you're not required to if the payment was made through a payment processor that will issue a 1099-K. Just make sure you keep good records of how each contractor was paid, in case of questions later.

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NebulaNinja

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I actually just got done with an IRS audit where this exact issue came up! My advice from painful experience: Keep VERY detailed records of all payment processor fees separate from the actual payments. For me, the IRS wanted to see that I wasn't double-counting the fees (deducting them separately AND as part of the contractor payment). I had to create a spreadsheet showing each payment, the fee amount, and the net amount received by the contractor. Also important: make sure your contractors understand how to report this on their end too, so their reported income matches your 1099s.

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Oh no, that sounds stressful! Did you end up owing more after the audit? I'm terrified of audits because my bookkeeping is... let's say "creative" lol.

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