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Tax verification process required for first time filing quarterly estimated payments?

So I started my freelance graphic design business last summer and I'm trying to be responsible with my taxes from the get-go. I want to pay my quarterly estimated taxes online through the IRS website, but I'm hitting a weird roadblock. When I try to set up payment, the system asks me to verify my identity by choosing a past tax year that I filed... but this is literally my first time filing taxes as self-employed! I've filed regular W-2 taxes for years at my old job, but nothing for self-employment before. The system won't let me proceed without selecting a previous year for verification. Is this normal? Do I need to wait until after I file my annual taxes for 2024 before I can pay quarterlies online? I've tried calling the IRS but gave up after being on hold for 90 minutes. There has to be a better way to handle this as a first-time self-employed taxpayer. Anyone else run into this issue when trying to make quarterly payments for the first time?

I've helped several clients through this exact situation. The IRS website does require verification using past tax information, which can be frustrating for first-time self-employed filers. But don't worry - you have options! Since you mentioned you've filed W-2 taxes before, you can actually use information from those previous personal tax returns for verification. The system isn't specifically looking for self-employment returns - it just needs to verify your identity using any past tax filing. Try entering the information from your most recent personal return (AGI, filing status, etc.). If that doesn't work, you can still pay estimated taxes through other methods. The IRS Direct Pay system, EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System), or even mailing a check with Form 1040-ES are all valid alternatives that may have simpler verification requirements.

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Thanks for this info. What if I've never filed taxes at all before (recent college grad) and am also trying to make quarterly payments for the first time? Would I need to wait until after filing my first annual return?

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If you've never filed taxes before, you would likely need to use an alternative payment method for your first quarterly payment. The IRS Direct Pay system might work, but you may need to use the mail-in option with Form 1040-ES for your first payment. Once you file your first annual return, you'll have the tax history needed for verification on the online systems, making future quarterly payments easier to set up.

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Sounds interesting, but does it actually help with the IRS verification process specifically? Or just the calculation part? I'm stuck at the same point the OP is.

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I'm pretty skeptical of tax tools that claim to solve everything... How exactly does it help with the identity verification part? That seems to be a system issue on the IRS side.

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It helps with both the verification issue and calculations. The tool actually walks you through the exact information you need to enter from your previous returns to pass the verification step - it identified that I could use my W-2 information from two years ago even though I hadn't filed self-employment before. For the skeptics, I get it - I was hesitant too. But what it does is analyze your specific tax situation and gives you personalized guidance for navigating the IRS systems. It's not bypassing anything, just clearly explaining what information the system is actually looking for versus what the confusing prompts suggest.

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Update: I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and WOW it actually worked! For anyone else facing this verification issue, the tool identified that I needed to use my AGI from my 2023 return (even though it was just W-2 income) plus my exact filing status from that year. The IRS system accepted it right away. The document analyzer feature also caught that I had been calculating my estimated payment wrong - I was overpaying by about 22%! Now I've got my quarterly payments set up correctly and I feel so much more confident about handling my self-employment taxes. Seriously worth checking out if you're stuck in the verification loop like I was.

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If you're still having trouble getting through to the IRS after multiple attempts, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I was in the EXACT same position as you - first time filing self-employment taxes, stuck on verification, and couldn't get through to anyone at the IRS for help. Claimyr basically holds your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you when an agent is about to answer. I was super skeptical at first, but after wasting 2 hours on hold one day, I tried it. They got me connected to an IRS rep in about 35 minutes without me having to sit through the hold music! The agent explained that I could use my previous W-2 tax info for verification AND set up my estimated payments over the phone. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c

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Wait, how does this actually work? I'm confused how some service can hold your place in line - does the IRS even allow that?

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This sounds like complete BS honestly. No way the IRS works with third-party line-holding services. And even if they did connect you, wouldn't the IRS just tell you to go online anyway?

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It's actually pretty simple - they use a call system that waits on hold for you, and when they detect a human has answered, they immediately connect you. The IRS doesn't know or care that a service was holding your place - from their perspective, it's just a normal call that they're answering. No BS at all - the IRS agent I spoke with walked me through the entire verification process over the phone. They confirmed I could use my previous W-2 tax info even though I was filing self-employment for the first time, and they even helped me set up my EFTPS enrollment right there during the call. Way more helpful than trying to figure it out from the confusing online prompts.

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Ok I need to eat some humble pie here. After my skeptical comments, I was still stuck with the same verification issue the OP had. Out of desperation I tried Claimyr and... it actually worked exactly as described. Got connected to an IRS agent in about 40 minutes without having to actively wait on hold. The agent confirmed what others have said here - you CAN use your previous W-2 tax information for verification even for first-time self-employment filing. She also mentioned this is one of their most common calls from new self-employed people. My issue is now completely resolved and I've made my first quarterly payment. Sometimes you gotta admit when you're wrong!

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Idk if this helps but when I started my etsy shop last year, I just mailed in my quarterly payments with the 1040-ES vouchers for the first year. No verification needed that way. Then after I filed my first full year of self-employment taxes, I could use the online system with no problems. Sometimes the old school method is easiest tbh.

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Did you have any issues with the payments being properly credited to your account? I've heard horror stories about mailed payments getting lost or misapplied.

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I had no issues with the payments being credited. I made sure to include my SSN on the vouchers and kept the receipt from certified mail just to be safe. All payments showed up correctly on my account when I filed my annual return. The only minor annoyance was having to remember to mail them early enough to arrive by the due date. I set calendar reminders about 10 days before each quarterly deadline to make sure I didn't miss one.

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Another option nobody mentioned is setting up EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System). It's clunky and takes like 2 weeks to get set up bc they mail you a PIN, but once it's active you can schedule all your quarterly payments in advance. The verification for that was easier for me as a first-timer than the regular IRS payment site.

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EFTPS is definitely the way to go for long-term, but doesn't the initial registration also require verification with previous tax info? I tried this route first but got stuck at the same verification step.

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I went through this exact same frustration when I started my consulting business! The verification loop is so annoying when you're trying to be responsible about quarterly payments. What worked for me was using my AGI and filing status from my most recent W-2 return (2023) for the verification step. The system doesn't actually care that it wasn't self-employment income - it just needs to verify you're really you using ANY previous tax filing. If you're still stuck, try the EFTPS system that Miguel mentioned. The verification process there was slightly different and I found it easier to navigate as a first-timer. Yes, you have to wait for the PIN in the mail which is annoying, but once it's set up you can schedule all your quarterly payments for the year in one sitting. Don't let this discourage you from staying on top of your quarterlies - you're already ahead of so many freelancers by thinking about this early!

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