Tax advice for gifting stocks to a UTMA account and diversification options
My brother-in-law has been gifting some individual tech stocks to my son's UTMA account for the past three years. The stocks have done really well (up like 70%), but I'm getting nervous about having so much money in just a few companies. I'd rather move everything to an S&P 500 index fund to be safer long-term. My problem is the tax situation. The capital gains would be pretty significant (around $18,000) if we sell everything. I know there's that kiddie tax thing for investment income over a certain amount for minors. My son is only 12, so we have years before he's an adult. Is there any way to diversify without getting hit with a huge tax bill right now? Does it even matter if we pay capital gains now versus when he's older? I've heard there might be a sweet spot when he's in college with no income where he could sell with minimal taxes. I'm also wondering if it would make sense to move the money to a 529 or maybe even a Roth IRA in his name after selling. I know those accounts have restrictions and penalties for non-qualified withdrawals, but maybe the tax benefits outweigh the downsides? Just trying to make the best long-term decision for his future.
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NeonNebula
You're right to be thinking about diversification, but you need to carefully consider the tax implications here. For the UTMA account, your son owns those assets - you're just the custodian until he reaches the age of majority (18-21 depending on your state). When you sell appreciated securities in the UTMA, the gains are indeed subject to the kiddie tax if they exceed certain thresholds ($2,300 for 2024). Given your $18,000 estimate, you'd likely trigger this tax. There is potentially a "sweet spot" for taxation when your son is in college with minimal income. If his income is low enough, he might qualify for the 0% long-term capital gains rate. This applies to single filers with taxable income below $44,625 (for 2024). Regarding transfers to other account types - you cannot directly transfer securities from a UTMA to a 529 or IRA. You would need to liquidate first (triggering the tax), then make contributions to those accounts. For an IRA, your son would need earned income to contribute (up to the amount earned, maximum $7,000 for 2024). For a 529, you could contribute as a gift, but there's no tax deduction at the federal level (though some states offer deductions).
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Isabella Costa
•This is great info. Can you clarify something about the kiddie tax? If we decide to sell now while my kid is 15, does that mean we'll pay our marginal tax rate on those gains? Or is it taxed at my kid's rate up to a certain amount and then my rate after that? Also, if we wait until they're in college, how exactly does that 0% capital gains work? Would they need to file their own return?
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NeonNebula
•For the kiddie tax, the first $1,250 of unearned income is tax-free, and the next $1,250 is taxed at the child's rate (likely 10%). Any unearned income over $2,500 is taxed at the parent's rate. So yes, most of those gains would be taxed at your marginal rate. When your child is in college and financially independent (not claimed as your dependent), they would file their own return. If their total taxable income falls below the threshold ($44,625 for 2024), long-term capital gains could qualify for the 0% rate. They would need to have held the investments for more than a year, and their other income sources would need to be low enough to stay under the threshold.
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Ravi Malhotra
After struggling with a similar situation last year, I discovered an online tool that helped me analyze the tax implications of selling stocks in my daughter's UTMA account. I used https://taxr.ai to upload all our statements and it broke down exactly how much we'd owe in taxes based on different selling strategies. It even showed me how to identify which specific shares to sell first to minimize the tax impact. The system explained that with UTMA accounts, you can actually select specific shares to sell rather than using the average cost basis, which helped us significantly reduce our capital gains exposure. It also helped project what the tax situation would look like if we waited until our daughter was in college versus selling now. Honestly wish I'd found this before spending hours trying to figure it out myself!
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Freya Christensen
•Does this actually work with UTMA accounts specifically? Last time I tried using tax software for my kids' investments, it got super confused about the kiddie tax calculations and I ended up having to manually figure everything out anyway. Does it give you specific advice on which shares to sell, or just general information?
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Omar Farouk
•I'm curious - can this tool also help figure out the best timing for selling? Like, would it tell me if it's better to spread sales across multiple tax years to stay under kiddie tax thresholds? Also, does it connect directly with brokerages or do I need to manually enter everything?
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Ravi Malhotra
•Yes, it works specifically with UTMA accounts and handles all the kiddie tax calculations correctly. It actually looks at your specific shares and purchase dates and recommends which ones to sell first based on your tax situation. It saved me from selling some shares that would have triggered much higher gains. For timing strategies, it absolutely helps with that. It can model different scenarios like spreading sales across tax years to stay under thresholds. I was able to see that selling $2,000 worth each year would keep us under the kiddie tax limit entirely. You can either connect your brokerage account directly or upload statements manually - I did the manual option since I'm paranoid about linking accounts.
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Freya Christensen
I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here last week, and it's been incredibly helpful for our family's UTMA situation. Our daughter has about $25k in individual stocks from grandparents, and we were planning to sell everything at once to diversify into index funds. The analysis showed we'd actually save about $3,400 in taxes by selling in batches over three years rather than all at once! It identified specific high-basis shares to sell first and gave us a year-by-year plan. The tool also confirmed that waiting until our daughter is in college (when her income will likely be under the capital gains threshold) would eliminate most of the tax burden. What surprised me most was discovering that some of the stocks had specific tax lots that were actually at a small loss, which we could use to offset some gains. The detailed visualization made it so much easier to understand than when our accountant tried to explain it. Definitely recommend for anyone dealing with UTMA accounts and investment decisions!
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Chloe Davis
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AstroAlpha
•How exactly does this work? I've literally spent hours on hold with the IRS before giving up. Do you just give them your phone number and they somehow get you through the queue faster? That seems too good to be true.
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Diego Chavez
•I don't buy it. The IRS phone system is deliberately designed to be impenetrable. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it. And even if you do get through, what are the chances you actually get someone who knows the specific tax rules for UTMA accounts? Most agents just know basic tax filing stuff, not specialized investment account rules for minors.
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Chloe Davis
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Diego Chavez
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Anastasia Smirnova
Another option to consider is gifting some of the appreciated stock to a donor-advised fund if your child plans to do any charitable giving eventually. This avoids capital gains entirely and creates a charitable deduction. The money grows tax-free in the DAF until your child directs donations to qualified charities. Keep in mind that UTMA funds legally belong to your child at the age of majority in your state, so you need to consider their financial maturity. Some kids at 18-21 aren't ready to handle large sums responsibly. Also, if college is in the future, remember that UTMA assets are considered the student's assets for financial aid purposes (assessed at 20%) whereas 529 assets are considered parental assets (assessed at max 5.64%). This can significantly impact financial aid eligibility.
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Malik Thomas
•Thanks for these additional perspectives. I hadn't considered the donor-advised fund option. Can you explain more about how that would work with a UTMA? Since the assets belong to my kid, can I even initiate that kind of transfer as the custodian? And you make a good point about financial aid - that 20% assessment rate could definitely impact college options down the road.
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Anastasia Smirnova
•As the custodian, you can make investment decisions including charitable contributions if they're in the minor's interest. However, you're right to question this - DAFs typically require the donor to be 18+, so this would likely need to wait until your child reaches majority age. At that point, they could establish the DAF themselves. Regarding financial aid, the impact is significant. If your child has $50,000 in a UTMA, that reduces aid eligibility by about $10,000 (20%). The same amount in a 529 would reduce eligibility by approximately $2,820 (5.64%). Many families don't realize this until they're completing the FAFSA. If college is definitely in the plan, converting to a 529 might make sense despite the immediate tax hit, especially if you can spread the conversion over multiple years to minimize the kiddie tax impact.
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Sean O'Brien
Since no one's mentioned it yet, you could also look into buying put options to hedge those concentrated stock positions without selling immediately. This would protect against significant downside risk while you implement a multi-year selling strategy to minimize taxes. Depending on how long your family member has held these stocks, you might also want to chat with them about future gifting strategy. Instead of gifting appreciated stock to the UTMA, they could gift cash which you could then invest in a diversified portfolio from the start, avoiding this problem in the future.
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Zara Shah
•Options trading in a UTMA account? Is that even allowed? Seems pretty risky for an account that's supposed to be for a minor. I thought most custodians limited UTMA accounts to stocks, mutual funds, ETFs and maybe bonds. Wouldn't the custodian need special approval for options trading?
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Kayla Jacobson
•You're absolutely right to question this. Most brokerages don't allow options trading in UTMA accounts, and even if they did, it would likely require special approval and involve significant risks that may not be appropriate for a minor's account. As a custodian, you have a fiduciary duty to act in the child's best interest, and speculative strategies like options could be seen as violating that duty. The suggestion about future gifting strategy is much more practical though. Having the brother-in-law gift cash instead of appreciated securities would definitely avoid this tax complexity going forward. You could then invest in diversified index funds from day one without having to worry about concentrated positions or capital gains taxes down the road.
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Adrian Connor
Great discussion here! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my nephew's UTMA account. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the state-specific implications. In some states, the UTMA age of majority is 18, while in others it's 21. This can affect your planning timeline significantly. Also, if you're considering the college timing strategy, keep in mind that many colleges now require students to report expected family contributions from all sources, including UTMA accounts, even if the student isn't claiming them on their tax return yet. So the financial aid impact might hit earlier than you think. For the immediate diversification concern, you might consider a hybrid approach: sell enough shares each year to stay just under the kiddie tax threshold (around $2,500 in unearned income), then immediately reinvest in your target S&P 500 fund. Yes, it'll take several years to fully diversify, but you'll avoid the big tax hit and still reduce concentration risk gradually. The compound growth during this period should help offset some of the delay in diversification.
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Emma Anderson
•This is really helpful, Adrian! I hadn't thought about the state-specific age requirements - that's definitely something to look into. The hybrid approach you mentioned makes a lot of sense too. Quick question about the gradual selling strategy: when you sell those shares annually and reinvest in the S&P fund, does that reset the holding period for capital gains purposes? I'm wondering if we'd lose the long-term capital gains treatment on the new index fund shares if we need to sell them later. Also, do you know if there are any restrictions on how frequently you can make these kinds of transactions in a UTMA account?
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Scarlett Forster
One strategy worth considering that hasn't been fully explored is tax-loss harvesting within the existing portfolio. If your brother-in-law gifted multiple tech stocks over three years, you likely have different tax lots with varying cost bases. Some positions might actually be at a loss or have smaller gains that you could sell first to begin diversification while minimizing the immediate tax impact. You could also consider a "barbell" approach: keep some of the best-performing, lowest-tax-impact positions while gradually diversifying the rest. This gives you some continued upside participation in those individual stocks while reducing overall concentration risk. Another timing consideration - if your son will be applying for college in the next few years, you might want to complete the diversification (and take the tax hit) before his junior year of high school. This way, the UTMA balance is lower when you start filing FAFSAs, reducing the financial aid impact. The one-time tax payment might be worth it compared to years of reduced aid eligibility. Don't forget to factor in your state's tax implications too - some states have no capital gains tax, while others treat it as regular income. This could significantly affect your total tax burden depending on where you live.
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Zainab Ahmed
•The barbell approach is really smart - I hadn't considered that we might have some tax lots that are actually at a loss or break-even. Since the stocks were gifted over three years during different market conditions, there's definitely going to be variation in the cost basis. Your point about timing this before junior year for FAFSA purposes is excellent. I was so focused on the tax implications that I wasn't thinking strategically about the financial aid timeline. Taking the hit early and having a lower UTMA balance could definitely save more in the long run than trying to minimize taxes. Do you have any suggestions on how to identify which specific tax lots to target first? I'm assuming the brokerage statements should show the purchase dates and cost basis for each lot, but I'm not sure how to prioritize which ones to sell when some might be losses and others have varying levels of gains.
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NebulaNova
Based on the excellent discussion here, I'd recommend a phased approach that balances tax efficiency with your diversification goals. Since your son is only 12, you have time to be strategic. First, request detailed tax lot information from your broker showing the purchase dates and cost basis for each gift. Look for any positions that are at a loss or have minimal gains - these should be your first candidates for selling and reinvesting in your S&P 500 fund. For the remaining positions, consider selling just enough each year to stay under the $2,500 kiddie tax threshold (around $1,250 in actual gains after the standard deduction). This gradual approach will take several years but avoids the large tax hit while steadily reducing concentration risk. However, if college is definitely in your son's future, there's merit to accelerating this timeline. Completing the diversification by his sophomore year of high school could significantly improve financial aid eligibility, as UTMA assets are assessed at 20% versus 5.64% for parent assets like 529 plans. One hybrid strategy: sell positions with the highest cost basis first (lowest taxable gains), reinvest in index funds, and keep 1-2 of the best performing individual stocks with the lowest basis. This gives you diversification while maintaining some upside exposure. Also consider discussing future gifting strategy with your brother-in-law - cash gifts instead of appreciated stock would avoid this complexity going forward.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•This is such a comprehensive strategy - thank you for laying it all out so clearly! As someone new to managing UTMA accounts, I really appreciate how you've broken down the different approaches based on timeline and priorities. The idea of requesting detailed tax lot information makes total sense, but I'm wondering - do most brokerages provide this automatically, or is this something I need to specifically request? Also, when you mention keeping 1-2 of the best performing stocks with the lowest basis, how do you balance that against the concentration risk? Is there a rule of thumb for what percentage of the portfolio should remain in individual stocks versus moving to diversified funds? One other question about the college timeline strategy - if we do accelerate the selling to improve FAFSA eligibility, would it make sense to reinvest the proceeds in a 529 plan instead of keeping everything in the UTMA? I know there are tax implications for moving money between account types, but the better financial aid treatment might be worth considering.
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