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Schedule K-1 for Energy Transfer LP in my Roth IRA - Do I need to file this with my personal tax return?

So I got a Schedule K-1 in the mail yesterday for an investment in Energy Transfer LP that I've held in my Roth IRA for about 3 years now. I've never had to deal with a K-1 in a retirement account before and I'm honestly confused about what I need to do with it for tax purposes. The K-1 shows about $425 in ordinary business income and some other small amounts in different boxes. My Roth IRA is with Vanguard, and when I called them, the representative seemed unsure and just said "you should probably consult a tax professional." I was under the impression that since it's in a Roth IRA, I don't need to report anything on my personal tax return since it's all tax-advantaged anyway. But now I'm second-guessing myself because the K-1 came addressed to me personally, not to "Vanguard FBO my name Roth IRA" or whatever. Do I need to include this Schedule K-1 when filing my personal taxes this year? Or can I just ignore it since it's in my Roth? I use TurboTax if that matters. I really don't want to mess this up and trigger an audit!

You don't need to file the K-1 with your personal tax return when the investment is held in a Roth IRA. The whole point of retirement accounts like Roth IRAs is that they serve as a separate tax entity from your personal finances. When you receive a K-1 for an investment held in a Roth IRA, it's actually the IRA custodian (Vanguard in your case) that's responsible for any required tax filings related to that investment, not you personally. The fact that the K-1 was addressed to you rather than "Vanguard FBO your name" is just an administrative oversight on Energy Transfer's part. The income shown on that K-1 ($425 ordinary business income and other items) doesn't need to be reported on your personal return because those earnings occurred within the tax-advantaged Roth environment. That's one of the benefits of investing in a Roth - all qualified earnings grow tax-free.

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Thank you for this clear explanation! I was really stressing about it. So just to make sure I understand correctly - I can completely ignore this K-1 for my personal tax filing and don't need to enter anything from it into TurboTax? Also, is there something I should do to make sure Energy Transfer addresses future K-1s properly to the custodian instead of to me directly?

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You can completely ignore the K-1 for your personal tax filing and don't need to enter anything from it into TurboTax. Since the investment is held within your Roth IRA, those earnings aren't reportable on your individual return. As for getting the K-1s properly addressed in the future, you should contact Energy Transfer's investor relations department. Provide them with the correct registration information for your Roth IRA (the "Vanguard FBO your name" format). Many partnerships have specific forms for changing registration details, so they can guide you through their process. This won't change your tax situation, but it might reduce confusion in future years.

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How does this work with traditional IRAs though? I have some REITs that generate K-1s in my traditional IRA, and I've been reporting them on my taxes. Should I not be doing that?

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For traditional IRAs, the same rule applies - you don't need to report K-1 income on your personal return when the investments are held inside the IRA. The IRA itself is responsible for any required filings, not you personally. This applies to REITs, MLPs, or other partnership investments generating K-1s. The system provides tax analysis based on IRS rules and publications, not just general advice. It specifically references the relevant tax code sections that exempt retirement account holdings from personal reporting requirements. Many users have told me they've successfully used the analysis during IRS inquiries. The tool is actually built by tax professionals who specialize in complex investments like K-1s and cryptocurrency.

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried taxr.ai with my Energy Transfer K-1 that I also hold in my IRA and wow, it really was helpful! I uploaded the K-1 PDF and it immediately identified that it was held in my retirement account and explained I don't need to report it. What I found most useful was that it broke down which specific parts of the K-1 would normally be taxable but are exempt because they're in the IRA. Now I finally understand why UBTI matters for certain investments in IRAs (though fortunately Energy Transfer didn't generate any for me). The system even provided a reference document explaining the tax treatment that I can keep with my records in case of questions. Definitely going to use this for all my investment docs next year!

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One thing nobody's mentioned that might be important - while you don't need to report the K-1 income on your personal return, you should check if your Energy Transfer investment is generating any Unrelated Business Taxable Income (UBTI) over $1,000 in your Roth. If it is, the IRA itself may need to file a Form 990-T and pay taxes on that portion. Most custodians like Vanguard will handle this filing if necessary, but it's worth checking with them specifically about UBTI for MLPs in retirement accounts. Some MLPs generate significant UBTI which can create tax liabilities even inside tax-advantaged accounts.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I just checked the K-1 and it shows about $85 in UBTI, so well below the $1,000 threshold. But I'll definitely keep an eye on this in future years. Would Vanguard automatically handle the Form 990-T filing if it ever goes over $1,000 or would I need to notify them?

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Vanguard should automatically handle the Form 990-T filing if your UBTI exceeds $1,000, but custodian practices vary. It's always a good idea to proactively contact them if you're approaching that threshold. Your $85 amount is well below the reporting requirement, so you're fine for now. Larger custodians like Vanguard have systems to track UBTI across all investments in retirement accounts, but they aren't perfect. If you hold multiple MLP investments that collectively might exceed $1,000 in UBTI, I'd recommend checking with them specifically. They'll appreciate the heads-up, and it ensures you don't miss any required filings for your Roth IRA.

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Umm just want to point out that everyone saying to ignore the K-1 is only partially right. While you don't report the income on your personal return, you DO need to keep track of your basis in the MLP units, even in a Roth IRA. The partnership distributions frequently return capital that reduce your basis, and if you ever sell the Energy Transfer units, you'll need that basis info to calculate if there's any excess income that could potentially trigger UBTI even in a Roth. If the basis goes negative (which happens with MLPs all the time), that has tax implications too. So don't just throw the K-1 away - keep it with your investment records!

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This is incorrect advice for Roth IRAs. Basis tracking for MLPs only matters for taxable accounts. In a Roth, all qualified distributions are tax-free regardless of basis adjustments. The whole point of a Roth is you don't pay taxes on growth or distributions. You're confusing rules for taxable accounts with retirement accounts.

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I have to respectfully disagree with AstroAce here. While it's true that qualified distributions from a Roth IRA are tax-free, the basis tracking for MLPs can still matter even in retirement accounts when it comes to UBTI calculations. When MLP distributions exceed your basis (creating negative basis), that excess can be treated as unrelated business taxable income subject to UBIT rules, even within a Roth IRA. This is different from regular stocks or bonds where basis tracking doesn't matter in retirement accounts. The IRS has specific guidance on this in Publication 598 regarding partnerships and retirement accounts. So while Ethan's advice about keeping the K-1 for basis tracking is correct, the practical impact is minimal unless you're dealing with very large MLP positions or significant distributions that drive basis negative. For Diego's situation with Energy Transfer, keeping the K-1 for records is smart, but given the relatively small amounts involved, it's unlikely to create any UBTI issues.

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I went through this exact same situation last year with my Energy Transfer units in my Roth IRA! The confusion is totally understandable - getting a K-1 addressed to you personally when the investment is in a retirement account really throws you off. As others have confirmed, you don't need to report this on your personal tax return. The K-1 income stays within the tax-advantaged Roth environment. I made the mistake of initially entering mine into TurboTax and then had to go back and remove it after consulting with my tax preparer. One practical tip: I called Energy Transfer's investor relations line (you can find it on their website) and asked them to update the registration to show "Vanguard FBO [Your Name] Roth IRA" for future K-1 mailings. It took about 10 minutes and now I get them properly addressed, which eliminates the confusion each year. Also, definitely keep that K-1 with your investment records as others mentioned - not for immediate tax purposes, but for your own documentation. The $425 in ordinary income you mentioned is pretty typical for Energy Transfer and shouldn't cause any UBTI concerns. You can breathe easy and focus on the rest of your tax return!

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Thank you Carmen, this is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! It's reassuring to know that someone else went through the same confusion and came out fine on the other side. I really appreciate the tip about calling Energy Transfer directly to update the registration. That's something I hadn't thought of but makes total sense - having the K-1s properly addressed in the future will definitely save me from this panic every year. And you're right about keeping the K-1 for records. Even though I don't need to report it, having that documentation organized will be helpful if I ever need to reference it later or if there are any questions about the investment. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's given me the confidence to move forward with my taxes without worrying about this K-1!

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I just wanted to add my experience as someone who's dealt with this exact scenario for several years now. I hold Energy Transfer LP units in both my Roth IRA and a taxable brokerage account, so I get two K-1s each year - one for each account. The difference in how you handle them is night and day. For the units in my taxable account, I absolutely have to report all the K-1 income, track basis adjustments, deal with depreciation recapture, etc. It's honestly a nightmare that requires professional help. But for the units in my Roth IRA? I literally just file the K-1 away with my investment records and forget about it. No reporting, no basis tracking complications, no tax calculations. That's the beauty of the Roth structure. The key thing that helped me understand this was realizing that the Roth IRA is essentially a separate tax entity. Anything that happens inside it stays inside it from a tax perspective. The only time you'd ever have tax implications is if the IRA itself generated over $1,000 in UBTI (which would require the custodian to file Form 990-T), but as others have mentioned, that's pretty rare with typical MLP investments. So Diego, you can definitely breathe easy and just ignore that K-1 for your personal tax filing. Save yourself the stress and complexity!

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This is such a helpful comparison, Sophia! Having experience with the same investment in both account types really illustrates why retirement accounts are so valuable for complex investments like MLPs. I've been considering adding some Energy Transfer units to my taxable account as well, but your description of the tax complexity (depreciation recapture, basis tracking, etc.) is making me think twice. It sounds like keeping these types of investments exclusively in retirement accounts might be the smarter move unless you really need the current income in a taxable account. For anyone else reading this thread who might be considering MLP investments, this is a great example of why account placement strategy matters so much. The same investment can go from being a tax nightmare to completely tax-free depending on where you hold it. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with both scenarios!

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I've been following this thread with great interest since I'm in a similar situation with MLP investments in my retirement accounts. One thing I'd like to add that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of understanding how your custodian handles these K-1 investments from an operational standpoint. I hold several MLP positions across different retirement accounts with various custodians, and I've noticed that not all of them are equally equipped to handle the administrative complexity of partnership investments. Some custodians are fantastic at tracking UBTI, handling any required 990-T filings, and providing clear year-end summaries, while others seem to struggle with the nuances. For those considering MLP investments in retirement accounts, I'd recommend asking your custodian specifically about their experience with partnership investments before purchasing. Questions like: How do they track UBTI across all your MLP holdings? Do they have systems in place to automatically file Form 990-T if needed? How do they handle the timing of distributions versus K-1 reporting? Vanguard, which Diego mentioned, generally has good systems for this, but it's always worth confirming their specific procedures. The peace of mind knowing your custodian can properly handle these investments is worth the upfront conversation. That said, Diego, you're absolutely in the clear for your personal tax filing - just wanted to share this perspective for anyone else considering similar investments!

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This is excellent advice, Keisha! I hadn't really thought about the operational differences between custodians when it comes to handling MLP investments, but it makes total sense that some would be better equipped than others. As someone new to both this community and dealing with K-1 investments in retirement accounts, I'm realizing there are so many nuances I never would have considered. The idea of asking specific questions about UBTI tracking and 990-T filing procedures before investing is really smart - it could save a lot of headaches down the road. For Diego and others in similar situations, it sounds like the consensus is clear that you don't need to report the K-1 on your personal return, but having a custodian who really understands these investments is crucial for the behind-the-scenes handling. Thanks for adding this operational perspective to what's already been a really informative discussion!

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I just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this thread - as someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never posted before, this discussion has been incredibly educational! Diego, I hope you're feeling much more confident about your situation now. The consensus from multiple experienced members is crystal clear: you can safely ignore that K-1 for your personal tax filing since the Energy Transfer investment is held in your Roth IRA. What I found most valuable was learning about all the nuances beyond just the basic answer - things like UBTI thresholds, the importance of custodian capabilities, updating registration information with the partnership, and keeping records even though you don't report the income. These are the kinds of practical details you don't typically find in generic tax advice articles. This thread is a perfect example of why community knowledge-sharing is so powerful. Between Anastasia's clear explanations, Carmen's real-world experience, Sophia's comparison of taxable vs. retirement account treatment, and Keisha's custodian operational insights, Diego got far better guidance than he would have from a single source. I'm bookmarking this thread for future reference since I'm considering some MLP investments myself and now know exactly what questions to ask my custodian first!

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I completely agree with your summary, StarSailor! As another newcomer who's been quietly following along, this thread has been incredibly valuable. The collaborative nature of the responses really shows the strength of this community. What struck me most was how Diego's initial confusion (which seemed so straightforward at first) actually opened up a much deeper discussion about MLP investments, custodian responsibilities, UBTI considerations, and operational best practices. It's a great example of how one person's question can benefit so many others who might be facing similar situations. I'm also planning to save this thread as a reference. The step-by-step guidance about contacting Energy Transfer to update registration information, the specific UBTI thresholds to monitor, and the custodian evaluation criteria are all actionable insights I wouldn't have thought to research on my own. Thanks to everyone who shared their expertise and real-world experiences - it's made me feel much more prepared to navigate these types of investment decisions in my own retirement accounts!

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As someone who works in tax preparation and has dealt with this exact scenario many times, I want to reinforce what others have said - you absolutely do NOT need to report this K-1 on your personal tax return since the Energy Transfer investment is held in your Roth IRA. The confusion is completely understandable because receiving a K-1 addressed to you personally feels like it should be reported, but the key is WHERE the investment is held. Since it's in your Roth IRA, all the income, gains, and distributions stay within that tax-advantaged account. I see this mistake frequently during tax season - clients bring in K-1s from retirement account investments thinking they need to report them. What I always tell them is to think of their Roth IRA as a separate "tax bucket" - whatever happens inside that bucket doesn't affect their personal tax return. Your TurboTax software might even try to import the K-1 if you scan documents, so be careful not to accidentally include it. The $425 in ordinary income and other amounts shown on your K-1 are already properly sheltered within your Roth structure. Keep the K-1 for your records, but you can confidently file your personal return without including any information from it. One less headache during tax season!

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Thank you for the professional perspective, Luca! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who deals with this situation regularly during tax season. Your "tax bucket" analogy for the Roth IRA is brilliant - that really helps clarify why the K-1 income stays separate from my personal return. I appreciate the heads up about TurboTax potentially trying to auto-import the K-1 if I scan documents. That's exactly the kind of mistake I could see myself making without thinking about it. I'll make sure to be extra careful during the filing process. This whole thread has been such a relief - I went from panicking about potentially triggering an audit to feeling completely confident about how to handle this. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experience!

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As a tax professional who specializes in retirement account investments, I want to echo what everyone has said and add one important clarification: the reason you don't report K-1 income from investments held in Roth IRAs is because the IRA itself is the actual owner of the investment for tax purposes, not you personally. When you "own" Energy Transfer LP units in your Roth, you're actually the beneficial owner, but Vanguard (as custodian) is the legal owner holding those units "for the benefit of" (FBO) your account. This is why the K-1 should technically be addressed to the custodian, not to you directly. This legal structure is what creates the tax protection - since the IRA entity owns the investment, any income flows to the IRA entity, not to you as an individual. That's why there's no personal tax reporting required. The same principle applies to ALL investments in retirement accounts - stocks, bonds, REITs, MLPs, etc. The income they generate stays within the retirement account's tax umbrella. The only exception would be if UBTI exceeds $1,000, which would require the IRA itself (not you) to file Form 990-T. Your instinct to ignore the K-1 for personal tax purposes is absolutely correct. Just file it with your investment records and move on!

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This legal ownership explanation really helps clarify the underlying mechanics, Marcelle! As someone new to both this community and retirement account investing, I hadn't fully understood the distinction between being the beneficial owner versus the legal owner of investments held in IRAs. Your point about the custodian being the actual legal owner "for the benefit of" the account holder makes perfect sense of why the tax treatment works the way it does. It's not just an arbitrary rule - there's a logical legal structure behind it. This also explains why updating the registration with Energy Transfer (as Carmen suggested earlier) isn't just about convenience - it actually reflects the proper legal ownership structure that should be on their records. Thanks for adding this professional insight! Between all the practical advice and now understanding the legal foundation, I feel like I have a complete picture of how these investments work in retirement accounts.

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As someone who's been investing in MLPs within retirement accounts for over a decade, I wanted to add a few practical points that might help Diego and others in similar situations. First, Energy Transfer LP is actually one of the "cleaner" MLPs when it comes to UBTI generation - they typically produce minimal amounts compared to some other partnerships, so your $85 UBTI that you mentioned earlier is pretty typical and nothing to worry about. Second, I'd recommend creating a simple spreadsheet to track your MLP K-1s each year, even though you don't report them. Include columns for the partnership name, account type (Roth vs Traditional IRA vs taxable), total income amounts, and UBTI. This makes it easy to monitor if you're approaching any thresholds and gives you a clear record if you ever need to reference historical data. Finally, if you decide to add more MLP positions to your Roth in the future, consider spreading them across different partnerships rather than concentrating in one. This diversifies your UBTI risk - if one partnership has an unusually high UBTI year, you're less likely to hit the $1,000 threshold that would require Form 990-T filing. But for your current situation with just the Energy Transfer position, you're in great shape. File away that K-1 and enjoy the tax-free growth in your Roth!

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This is incredibly helpful advice, StormChaser! As someone just starting to navigate MLP investments in retirement accounts, the practical tips you've shared are exactly what I needed to hear. The spreadsheet tracking idea is brilliant - even though we don't need to report the K-1 income, having that organized record of UBTI amounts across different partnerships makes so much sense for monitoring thresholds. I can see how that would be especially valuable if someone builds a larger portfolio of MLP investments over time. Your point about Energy Transfer being one of the "cleaner" MLPs in terms of UBTI generation is also reassuring. It sounds like Diego made a good choice for his first MLP investment in a retirement account, especially since staying well below that $1,000 UBTI threshold seems manageable. The diversification strategy you mentioned for spreading UBTI risk across multiple partnerships is something I hadn't considered but makes perfect sense. It's another example of how this community provides insights that go well beyond just answering the immediate question. Thanks for sharing your decade of experience with these investments - it's given me a much better framework for thinking about MLPs in retirement accounts going forward!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I've been holding some MLP investments in my own retirement accounts and had similar confusion about the K-1 treatment. What really stands out to me is how this thread evolved from Diego's straightforward question into such a comprehensive resource covering everything from basic tax treatment to operational considerations with custodians, UBTI thresholds, and even portfolio diversification strategies. The consensus is crystal clear - K-1 income from investments held in Roth IRAs doesn't need to be reported on personal tax returns because the income stays within the tax-advantaged retirement account structure. But the additional insights about proper registration, recordkeeping, and custodian capabilities have been equally valuable. This is exactly the kind of collaborative knowledge-sharing that makes online communities so powerful. Diego asked one question and got expert-level guidance that will help not just him, but anyone else facing similar situations with partnership investments in retirement accounts. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread as a reference and will be implementing some of the practical suggestions like the UBTI tracking spreadsheet that StormChaser mentioned. Thanks to everyone who contributed their expertise and real-world experience!

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I couldn't agree more, Connor! As another newcomer to this community, I've been amazed by the depth and quality of responses in this thread. What started as Diego's concern about whether to report his Energy Transfer K-1 has turned into a masterclass on MLP investments in retirement accounts. The collaborative aspect you mentioned really is the standout feature here - seeing tax professionals like Marcelle and Luca share their expertise alongside experienced investors like StormChaser and Sophia creates such a rich learning environment. The fact that everyone took time to not just answer the immediate question but provide broader context and practical tips shows the genuine helpfulness of this community. I'm particularly grateful for the operational insights about custodian capabilities and the legal ownership explanations. These are the kinds of nuanced details that you'd typically only get from expensive professional consultations, but the community has freely shared them here. Like you, I'll definitely be implementing the tracking spreadsheet idea and keeping this thread as a reference. It's given me so much more confidence about handling partnership investments in my own retirement accounts. This thread perfectly demonstrates why community knowledge-sharing is often more valuable than any single expert opinion!

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