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Question about 1099 work and tax offset with stock losses

I have a question about my tax situation this year. I'm currently working a W-2 job and also doing some 1099 contract work on the side. For my contractor position, I haven't been withholding any taxes, which means I'll need to pay everything in one chunk during tax season. Based on my projections, I'll make around $23k from the 1099 work and will probably owe about $5-6k in taxes on that income. What I'm wondering is - I have some stocks that aren't doing well, and I'm considering selling them at a loss of about $3k. Would this $3k loss directly reduce what I have to pay on my 1099 income? Like, would it bring my tax bill down from $5-6k to just $2-3k? I'm trying to figure out if selling these losing stocks would help offset my tax burden.

Chloe Martin

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Yes, capital losses can help offset your tax burden, but it works in a specific way. Capital losses first offset capital gains. If your losses exceed your gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 of those losses against your ordinary income (which includes your W-2 and 1099 income). So if you sell stocks at a $3k loss and have no capital gains this year, you can reduce your total taxable income by $3k. This doesn't directly reduce your tax payment dollar-for-dollar, but rather reduces the income that gets taxed. If you're in the 22% tax bracket, a $3k reduction in taxable income would save you about $660 in taxes, not the full $3k. For your 1099 income, remember you'll owe both income tax and self-employment tax (which is about 15.3%). Planning for quarterly estimated tax payments might be a good idea to avoid an underpayment penalty.

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Diego Rojas

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Thanks for explaining! I'm in a similar situation but have been confused about this. So just to clarify - if I have a $2,500 stock loss, that reduces my taxable income by $2,500, not my actual tax bill, right? And does this offset apply to both the regular income tax AND the self-employment tax on 1099 income?

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Chloe Martin

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You're exactly right - the capital loss reduces your taxable income, not your tax bill directly. So a $2,500 loss would reduce your taxable income by that amount, saving you whatever your tax rate percentage is of that $2,500. The capital loss offset applies to your regular income tax calculation, but unfortunately not to your self-employment tax. Self-employment tax is calculated on your net earnings from self-employment regardless of capital losses. So you'll still pay the full self-employment tax on your 1099 income, but your income tax will be calculated after accounting for the capital loss deduction.

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Did it help you figure out quarterly payments too? I just started 1099 work and I'm totally lost on how much I should be setting aside each month.

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Don't forget that you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments on your 1099 income! If you wait until tax time to pay the full amount, you might get hit with an underpayment penalty. I learned this the hard way last year. For the stock loss question, I'll just add that the $3,000 loss limit is annual. If your losses exceed $3,000, you can carry the excess forward to future tax years. So if you have a $5,000 loss, you can deduct $3,000 this year and the remaining $2,000 next year.

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AstroAce

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I completely forgot about quarterly payments! Is it too late to start now? I've already been doing this work for about 7 months...

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It's never too late to start making estimated payments, though you may already be subject to some penalties for the missed quarters. The good news is you can still make payments for any remaining quarters this year to minimize future penalties. There's also a safe harbor provision that might help - if your withholding from your W-2 job covers at least 90% of your tax liability for this year or 100% of your tax liability from last year (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face a penalty. So depending on your W-2 withholding, you might be okay even without the quarterly payments.

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Just a quick tip - make sure you're tracking ALL your expenses related to your 1099 work! That can make a much bigger difference than investment losses. I do similar contract work and track things like: - Home office space - Internet/phone used for work - Computer equipment & software - Professional subscriptions - Mileage for any work travel - Professional development/training These deductions directly reduce your 1099 income before taxes are calculated, so they lower both income tax AND self-employment tax, which is huge!

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Ethan Wilson

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What's the best app to track all this stuff? I've been trying to save receipts but it's getting messy.

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I've had good luck with QuickBooks Self-Employed. It links to your bank account/credit cards and lets you swipe expenses as business or personal. It also has mileage tracking that runs in the background on your phone. There are cheaper options like Stride that are pretty good too. The key is finding something you'll actually use consistently. Even a simple spreadsheet works if you're diligent about updating it. The most important thing is keeping good records in case of an audit, so make sure whatever system you use allows you to store receipt images.

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Great thread with lots of helpful advice! I'm also doing 1099 work for the first time this year and had similar questions about capital losses. One thing I want to add - if you're selling stocks at a loss specifically for tax purposes, be careful about the wash sale rule. If you buy back the same stock (or substantially identical securities) within 30 days before or after the sale, the IRS won't allow you to claim the loss for tax purposes. Also, since you mentioned you haven't been withholding taxes from your 1099 income, you might want to consider adjusting your W-2 withholding to cover some of the additional tax burden. You can submit a new W-4 to your employer to have extra taxes withheld from your regular paycheck. This can be easier than making quarterly estimated payments and helps ensure you're covered for the safe harbor rules others mentioned. The business expense tracking advice here is spot on too - those deductions can really add up and reduce both your income tax and self-employment tax burden!

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