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Anastasia Popov

Property tax bill is delayed this year, can I still deduct in 2023 by estimating/prepaying without receiving bill?

My property taxes always exceed the $10K SALT limit. I don't have an escrow account, so I handle the tax payments on my own schedule. Every December, I make sure to pay my property taxes so I can max out the $10,000 deduction on that year's return. This helps me avoid accidentally missing out on the tax benefit. But this year, my county is extremely behind on sending out the tax bills. We're already deep into December, and still nothing in the mail! I'm getting worried that I won't receive my property tax bill before year-end. If I don't get it by December 31st, can I still estimate the amount (it'll probably be around $13,500 based on last year's bill plus an expected increase) and pay it anyway to claim the deduction for 2023? Would the IRS accept this even without an official bill in hand? Or am I out of luck for claiming it on this year's taxes? I really don't want to lose out on that deduction since it's substantial. Any advice would be appreciated!

Sean Murphy

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The rule for deducting property taxes is that you can deduct them in the year you actually pay them, but only if they've been assessed by that point. The tax has to be "imposed" on you for it to be deductible. If your county has determined the tax and just hasn't sent the bill yet, you might be able to get the amount from their website or by calling them directly. Many counties have online systems where you can look up your property tax assessment even before receiving the physical bill. If you can confirm the official assessment amount and pay it in 2023, that payment would be deductible on your 2023 return. However, if the county hasn't officially assessed the property tax yet for the current period, then prepaying based on your own estimate wouldn't qualify as a deductible expense for 2023, even if you make the payment this year. The IRS would consider this a deposit rather than a tax payment.

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Zara Khan

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So what happens if I end up prepaying anyway and the actual bill comes later and is different than what I paid? Can I deduct the prepaid amount in 2023 and then deal with the difference when filing 2024 taxes?

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Sean Murphy

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If you prepay based on your own estimate before the tax is assessed, the IRS doesn't consider it a tax payment for the current year - it's viewed as a deposit. When the actual assessment happens later, that's when the tax liability is officially created, and that would be the year you could claim the deduction. If you prepay and the actual bill is different, you'd have to handle it in the year the tax was actually assessed. Any excess payment would typically be applied to your next tax bill or refunded, while a shortfall would need to be paid. Neither situation allows you to split the deduction between two tax years.

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Nia Davis

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Do they actually give you specific advice for your situation or is it just general information? My county's website is terrible and doesn't show if the assessment is complete or not.

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I'm skeptical about these tax services tbh. How is this different from just asking a CPA? And can they actually tell you if YOUR specific county has assessed the taxes yet or is this just generic advice?

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Luca Ferrari

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Ethan Wilson

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I went through this last year with Cook County (always late with their bills). Called the assessor's office and they told me I could look up my PIN on their website to see the assessed amount even though bills hadn't gone out yet. I paid online using that amount in December and included a printout of the assessment page with my tax documents. No issues with the IRS accepting the deduction. Most counties have the info available somehow before they mail the physical bills.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! I just checked my county's website and found a property search function I didn't know about. You're right - they do have the assessed value listed even though bills haven't been mailed. Does having the assessed value mean it's officially "imposed" as someone mentioned above? I want to make sure I'm following the proper IRS guidelines.

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Ethan Wilson

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Yes, if you can see the assessed value on the official county website, that means the tax has been "imposed" for IRS purposes. The physical bill is just a notification - the actual tax obligation is created when the assessment is finalized and recorded in the county system. Make sure to print or save a PDF of the assessment page showing the date and amount as documentation for your records. I also wrote "Property Tax Prepayment - PIN #12345" in the memo line of my check as additional documentation. The IRS never questioned my deduction.

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Yuki Sato

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Has anyone used the IRS's "safe harbor" rule for property tax deductions? I think if you pay based on the previous year's assessment, you should be fine claiming it in the current year since it's a reasonable estimate. My accountant said that's what we're doing this year since our county is behind too.

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Carmen Flores

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I believe you're confusing the safe harbor rules for estimated tax payments with property tax deductions. For property tax deductions, the tax must actually be assessed (imposed) to be deductible in the year paid. There's no safe harbor that allows you to deduct estimated property tax payments before assessment.

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Yuki Sato

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You're right, I misunderstood what my accountant was telling me. He was actually referring to using last year's property tax amount for estimated tax payment calculations, not for claiming the property tax deduction itself. Getting the tax terminology mixed up shows why I need an accountant in the first place lol. Thanks for the correction!

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