Looking for a CPA with gambling/sports betting and PayPal experience for tax issue
So I'm in a real bind here. Been gambling online (mostly blackjack) throughout 2021 and 2022 and took some pretty heavy losses across multiple betting sites. I used PayPal for all my deposits and withdrawals. Now the IRS has sent me a CP2000 notice with a proposed tax bill that's giving me serious anxiety. I've already sent them documentation including my PayPal transaction history, win/loss statements from all the betting sites, and complete deposit/withdrawal records. I feel like I've got pretty solid documentation to back up my situation. The problem is they're now telling me I need to submit a Schedule C with expenses. I'm completely lost on whether this is the right approach or if there's something else I should be doing. Is this normal for gambling losses? Should I be filing as some kind of business? I really need someone with specific experience handling gambling taxes, especially with PayPal transactions involved. Any CPAs out there who specialize in this area and looking for a new client? I'm desperate for professional guidance before I dig myself into a deeper hole with the IRS.
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Alexander Zeus
This is definitely a tricky situation that requires some specialized knowledge. When the IRS wants you to file a Schedule C, they're essentially saying they think your gambling activity constitutes a "trade or business" rather than just casual gambling. For most recreational gamblers, losses are reported as itemized deductions on Schedule A (limited to the amount of your winnings), not on Schedule C. Schedule C is typically for professional gamblers who can declare themselves as being in the "business" of gambling, which has different tax implications. The distinction matters a lot. Professional gamblers report winnings and losses on Schedule C, can deduct expenses, and aren't subject to the same limitations as recreational gamblers. However, professional gambling status requires you to prove you're approaching it as a business - regular activity, profit motive, expertise development, etc. Based on what you've shared, it sounds like the IRS might be misinterpreting your PayPal activity. I'd recommend working with a CPA who specializes in gambling taxation to help determine your correct status and respond appropriately to the CP2000.
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Alicia Stern
•So what happens if the IRS classifies someone as a professional gambler when they're actually not? Does filing Schedule C open you up to other issues like self-employment tax? And would you need to show a profit for the gambling to be considered a legitimate business?
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Alexander Zeus
•Filing Schedule C when you're actually a recreational gambler can indeed expose you to self-employment taxes that you shouldn't have to pay. Professional gamblers pay self-employment tax on their net gambling income, while recreational gamblers don't pay SE tax on winnings. For gambling to be considered a legitimate business, you don't necessarily need to show a profit every year, but you do need to demonstrate a profit motive. The IRS typically applies a "9 out of 5" test - showing profit in at least 3 out of 5 consecutive years creates a presumption that you have a profit motive. However, even with losses, you can still qualify as a professional if you can prove you approach gambling in a businesslike manner, have expertise, spend significant time gambling, and have expectation of future profit or appreciation.
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Gabriel Graham
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Drake
•Did it help you determine if you should file Schedule C or not? I'm in a similar situation where I've been using Venmo for my poker games and the IRS thinks I'm running a business.
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Sarah Jones
•I'm skeptical that an AI service would know the specific legal distinctions between professional and recreational gambling. Did they actually provide tax advice or just organize documents? And were they able to handle the CP2000 response directly?
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Gabriel Graham
•Yes, it absolutely helped me determine the right filing approach. They analyzed my gambling patterns, frequency, and record-keeping to determine I was clearly a recreational gambler despite the high volume of transactions. They showed exactly why Schedule A was appropriate in my case rather than Schedule C. They provided both document organization and specific guidance on how to respond to the CP2000. While they don't represent you directly with the IRS, they prepare a complete response package with all supporting documentation properly organized and formatted. They also include a detailed explanation letter that cites relevant tax code and precedents. In my case, the IRS accepted my response and significantly reduced my tax bill.
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Sarah Jones
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Sebastian Scott
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Emily Sanjay
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Sarah Jones
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Sebastian Scott
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Sarah Jones
Just wanted to update that I actually tried Claimyr after posting my skeptical comment. I'm honestly shocked - it actually works exactly as described. I got a call back in about 45 minutes saying they were in the queue, and then about 10 minutes later I was talking to an IRS agent about my gambling tax situation. The agent confirmed that in most cases, recreational gamblers should NOT file Schedule C even with high volume betting activity. She explained that the CP2000 was likely generated because PayPal might have filed 1099-K forms for the transactions, making them look like business income. She advised me to respond with: 1. A clear explanation that the activity was recreational gambling 2. All my win/loss statements 3. Documentation of deposits/withdrawals through PayPal 4. A summary of total wagers, winnings and losses Saved me from incorrectly filing Schedule C and potentially opening myself up to self-employment taxes I don't actually owe.
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Jordan Walker
Adding my 2 cents as a former tax preparer - the key difference between recreational and professional gambling comes down to how you approach it. Recreational gamblers play for entertainment (even if they hope to win), while professional gamblers approach it as their livelihood. For recreational gamblers: - Winnings are reported as "Other Income" on Schedule 1 - Losses can be itemized on Schedule A up to the amount of winnings - No self-employment tax applies - No business expenses beyond actual gambling losses For professional gamblers: - All activity goes on Schedule C - Can deduct business expenses beyond just losses - Subject to self-employment tax - Need to maintain extensive records to prove business status The IRS tends to default to assuming recreational status unless you can firmly prove otherwise. If you're truly a recreational gambler, submitting Schedule C could actually hurt you financially.
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Olivia Harris
•Thanks for breaking it down so clearly! In my case, I definitely wasn't approaching this as a livelihood - just got way too into online blackjack during the pandemic. So it sounds like I should be pushing back on their request for Schedule C and sticking with the recreational classification?
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Jordan Walker
•Based on what you've shared, yes - you should probably maintain that you're a recreational gambler. The fact that you had overall losses and describe it as something you "got into" rather than your profession suggests recreational status. The IRS might be confused because of the PayPal transactions, which can sometimes be reported on forms typically used for business income. I'd recommend clearly explaining in your response that these were recreational gambling activities, not a business enterprise. Include all your documentation showing the true nature of the transactions, and specifically request that they treat the activity as recreational gambling with losses reported on Schedule A rather than Schedule C.
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Natalie Adams
Has anyone used TurboTax or similar software to handle gambling income/losses with a CP2000 notice? My situation is almost identical to the original poster but I'm trying to avoid paying for professional help if possible.
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Elijah O'Reilly
•I tried using TurboTax to handle my gambling/CP2000 situation last year and it was a disaster. The software doesn't really guide you through responding to IRS notices, and it definitely doesn't help you determine if you're a professional or recreational gambler. I ended up having to hire a CPA anyway after wasting hours in TurboTax.
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Oliver Weber
I went through almost the exact same situation last year - online gambling losses, PayPal transactions, and a CP2000 notice that had me panicking. Here's what I learned after working with a CPA who specializes in gambling taxes: The IRS often gets confused by PayPal transactions because they can look like business income when they're really just gambling deposits/withdrawals. In my case, PayPal had issued 1099-K forms that made my gambling activity appear to be business transactions, which triggered the CP2000. My CPA helped me respond with a detailed letter explaining that: 1. All transactions were recreational gambling, not business activity 2. I had no profit motive beyond hoping to win (like any recreational gambler) 3. I didn't maintain the kind of detailed business records a professional would 4. I had significant net losses over the period in question We included all my win/loss statements, PayPal transaction history, and a spreadsheet clearly showing total deposits, withdrawals, and net losses. The key was demonstrating that this was clearly recreational activity despite the high dollar volume. The IRS accepted our response and dropped the Schedule C requirement entirely. I ended up owing much less than originally proposed because we could properly claim my gambling losses as itemized deductions on Schedule A. Don't let them push you into professional gambler status if you're not one - it could end up costing you more in self-employment taxes than you'd save.
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Isabella Ferreira
•This is really helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! I'm curious about the timeline for this process. How long did it take from when you submitted your response until the IRS accepted it and dropped the Schedule C requirement? I'm worried about missing deadlines while trying to get this sorted out properly. Also, did your CPA charge a flat fee for handling the CP2000 response, or was it hourly? I'm trying to budget for professional help but want to make sure I'm not getting overcharged for what should be a straightforward clarification.
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