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Zoe Papanikolaou

Income from rental of personal property on 1099-NEC vs 1099-MISC - need clarification

I work as a freelance camera operator in live events and entertainment. About 60% of my income comes from renting my camera gear to the companies that hire me, and the other 40% comes from my actual work operating the equipment. I'm getting confused with how my clients are reporting my income. Some clients send me separate forms - a 1099-NEC for my labor and a 1099-MISC for my equipment rentals. But most of them just lump everything together on a single 1099-NEC. Is this something I need to get my clients to fix? Or is there a way on my tax forms to separate the rental of personal property income from my service income when it's all reported on a 1099-NEC? I want to make sure I'm classifying everything correctly for the IRS. I track everything in QuickBooks Online Plus with separate line items for labor and equipment rentals on the same invoice, but I'm not sure if that's enough for tax purposes. Any advice would be really appreciated!

You don't need to worry about getting your clients to issue different 1099 forms. What matters is how YOU report the income on your tax return. On your Schedule C, you'll report all your income together (both labor and equipment rental), but you can use Part V of Schedule C to report your expenses related to your equipment. This shows the IRS that part of your business involves capital assets. When you file, keep detailed records showing which portion of your income came from equipment rental versus labor. Your QuickBooks separation of line items is perfect for this - just maintain those records in case of an audit. What's important is that you're correctly claiming depreciation on your equipment using Form 4562 and taking appropriate business deductions. The source form (1099-NEC vs 1099-MISC) doesn't affect your tax liability as much as properly tracking your expenses and depreciation.

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Mei Lin

Is there any advantage to having clients separate the 1099s? I thought rental income was taxed differently than service income. Does having it all on 1099-NEC mean you pay self-employment tax on the full amount instead of just the labor portion?

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There can be an advantage to having separate 1099s in some situations. Rental of personal property reported on 1099-MISC (Box 1) is generally not subject to self-employment tax, while services on 1099-NEC are subject to self-employment tax. When your rental activities and services are part of the same business operation (like in your case where you both provide and operate the equipment), the IRS typically considers the entire amount as subject to self-employment tax. However, if you can demonstrate that the equipment rental is a separate business activity from your services, you might be able to report the rental income on Schedule E instead, which isn't subject to self-employment tax.

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Have you considered setting up an LLC taxed as an S-Corp to deal with this? That's what I did for my video production business. I pay myself a reasonable salary for my labor (which is subject to employment taxes) and the rest can come as distributions (not subject to SE tax). This works well when you have significant income from equipment rental. You have to make sure the salary portion is reasonable for your industry, but it could save you a lot in taxes compared to sole proprietor status where everything gets hit with self-employment tax.

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How complicated is the process of setting up an LLC and electing S-Corp status? I've heard there are additional costs like payroll services and more complex tax filings. Is it worth it at my income level (around $85K total with about $50K from equipment)?

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Setting up an LLC is relatively straightforward - you can do it yourself in most states through their secretary of state website for a few hundred dollars. The S-Corp election is just filing Form 2553 with the IRS. The ongoing requirements are what add complexity. You need to run payroll (including quarterly payroll tax filings), issue yourself a W-2, and file a separate tax return for the business (Form 1120-S). I use a payroll service that costs about $50/month. The tax preparation is more expensive too - I pay about $800 more per year than I did as a sole proprietor.

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Has anyone tried just setting up a separate sole proprietorship for the equipment rental part? I'm wondering if I could invoice clients separately - one invoice from my service business and another from an equipment rental business with a different name and EIN.

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I tried this approach and it didn't work well. The IRS looks at related activities and may still consider it all one business, especially if the equipment is used in conjunction with your services for the same clients. Also, having two businesses created more paperwork and confusion with my clients who didn't want to deal with multiple invoices and payment processes.

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