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Marcus Williams

How to deduct margin interest for investment tax purposes when trading multiple stock batches

I'm trying to figure out the correct way to handle margin interest deductions on my taxes. Here's my situation, hoping someone can help. During 2023, I bought AMD stock in three separate batches using margin. I made these purchases at different times throughout the year, and I've been paying margin interest on all three batches. In November, I sold the second batch of AMD shares and made a profit of $85,000. For the entire year, I paid approximately $62,000 in margin interest across all three batches combined. The thing is, this interest wasn't just for the batch I sold - it was for all three batches of AMD. My main question is: Can I deduct the entire $62,000 of margin interest I paid, or am I limited to only deducting the portion related to the batch I actually sold (which would be around $38,000 of the interest)? Another way to ask this: For tax purposes, can I treat all the margin interest paid in 2023 as one aggregate amount since it's all for the same stock (AMD), or can I only deduct margin interest up to the investment income from the specific batch of AMD that I sold and realized a profit on? Really appreciate any expertise on this. My regular accountant seems unsure about the specifics of margin interest deductions.

Lily Young

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The IRS treats investment interest expense deductions based on your total net investment income, not on a batch-by-batch basis for the same security. So theoretically, you could deduct the entire $62,000 in margin interest - BUT only up to the amount of your net investment income for the year. In your case, your net investment income appears to be $85,000 (the profit from selling the second batch of AMD). Since this exceeds your total margin interest of $62,000, you should be able to deduct the full margin interest amount. This deduction would be reported on Schedule A as an itemized deduction, subject to the investment interest expense rules. Just remember that you need to file Form 4952 (Investment Interest Expense Deduction) to calculate and claim this deduction properly. The key thing to understand is that the IRS doesn't require you to match specific interest expenses to specific investment transactions when it's the same security. They look at your overall investment picture for the year.

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! So just to confirm, even though the $62,000 interest was for all three batches (including the two I haven't sold yet), I can still deduct it all because my realized profit from the sold batch ($85,000) exceeds the total interest paid? Also, do I need to do anything special on the Form 4952 to explain that the interest was for all three batches but I'm only reporting income from one batch?

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Lily Young

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Yes, you can deduct the entire $62,000 since your investment income of $85,000 exceeds that amount. The IRS doesn't require you to allocate interest expense on a batch-by-batch basis for the same security - they look at your total investment interest expense versus your total investment income. On Form 4952, you don't need to provide any special explanation about the batches. You'll simply report your total investment income (the $85,000 gain) on line 4a, and your total investment interest expense ($62,000) on line 1. The form will calculate how much you can deduct, which in your case should be the full $62,000.

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Lauren Wood

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that if your total margin interest exceeds your investment income for the year, you can carry forward the unused portion to future tax years. This is important if you're holding positions long-term. For example, if you paid $62k in margin interest but only had $40k in investment income, you could deduct $40k this year and carry forward the remaining $22k to next year's taxes. Also remember that "investment income" includes not just capital gains but also ordinary dividends, interest income, and certain royalties. So factor those in when calculating how much margin interest you can deduct.

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That's really helpful additional information! In my case, I also received about $12,000 in dividends from other investments. Would those count toward my "investment income" total for calculating how much margin interest I can deduct?

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Lauren Wood

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Yes, those dividends absolutely count as part of your investment income for the purpose of the margin interest deduction calculation. Your total investment income would be your $85,000 capital gain plus the $12,000 in dividends, so $97,000 total. Since this is well above your $62,000 in margin interest, you can deduct the full amount. This is actually a key point many people miss - investment income for this purpose includes dividends, interest, capital gains, royalties, and even income from passive activities. The IRS looks at your entire investment picture, not just the specific stocks that generated the margin interest.

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Ellie Lopez

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Can I piggyback on this question with a related margin interest issue? If I use margin to buy both stocks and options, but only sell the options for a profit while keeping the stocks, can I deduct all the margin interest? Or only the portion related to the options I sold?

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Lily Young

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You can deduct all your margin interest up to the amount of your total investment income, regardless of which specific securities you sold. The IRS doesn't require you to match interest expenses to specific securities or transactions. So if your options trading generated sufficient investment income to cover all your margin interest for the year (from both stocks and options), you can deduct the full amount of interest. Just make sure to complete Form 4952 correctly to calculate your allowable deduction.

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Nia Williams

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Just wanted to add a practical tip from my experience with a similar situation. When you're preparing your taxes, make sure you have good documentation of all your margin interest payments throughout the year. Your brokerage should provide this on your 1099-INT or in your monthly statements, but it's worth double-checking the totals. Also, keep in mind that if you have multiple brokerage accounts, you'll need to aggregate all your investment income and all your investment interest expenses across all accounts when completing Form 4952. The IRS looks at your total investment picture, not account by account. One more thing - if you're planning to continue using margin in future years, consider keeping a spreadsheet to track your margin interest payments monthly. This makes tax prep much easier and helps you project whether you'll have enough investment income to fully deduct the interest each year.

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