How to calculate Student Loan Interest Deduction with MAGI phaseout threshold
I'm really frustrated and hope someone can help me figure out where I messed up. I just took an assessment for a job interview (I did pass thankfully) but I got marked wrong on what seems like a straightforward tax question about student loan interest deductions. Here's the question that's driving me crazy: Jamie paid $4,200 in interest on a private student loan for qualified education expenses when she was a full-time student. She got her Form 1098-E showing this interest paid during 2024. She's filing jointly with her spouse Taylor, and their modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is $152,000. What's the maximum student loan interest deduction they can claim? My calculation: The phaseout for 2024 starts at $145,000 and ends at $175,000 for joint filers. So they're $7,000 into the phaseout range, which spans $30,000. That's 7000/30000 = 0.233 or 23.3% of the way through the phaseout. So I multiply the interest paid by 0.233 (4200 × 0.233) = $979. That's the portion that phases out. Then 4200 - 979 = $3,221 of deductible interest. But since the max deduction is $2,500, they should be able to deduct $2,500, right? The answer choices were $0, $1,667, $2,500, or $4,200. I picked $2,500 but was marked wrong! What am I missing here? I thought you subtract the phaseout from the actual interest paid, not from the maximum $2,500 limit.
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Andre Dupont
You're making a very common mistake in how the phaseout is calculated. The phaseout actually applies to the maximum deduction amount ($2,500), not to the total interest paid. Here's how to correctly calculate it: 1. Start with the maximum possible deduction: $2,500 2. Calculate the phaseout percentage: ($152,000 - $145,000) ÷ $30,000 = 0.233 (or 23.3%) 3. Calculate the reduction amount: $2,500 × 0.233 = $583 4. Subtract the reduction from the maximum: $2,500 - $583 = $1,917 However, there's another limitation: you can't deduct more than you actually paid. Since Jamie paid $4,200, which is more than the calculated amount, the maximum deduction would be $1,917 (rounded to $1,917). The correct answer would be closest to $1,667 from your options, though my calculation gives $1,917. The test might have used slightly different numbers for the phaseout range or a different rounding method.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•Wait, I'm a bit confused. I thought the tax code says you first compare your actual interest paid ($4,200 in this case) to the maximum allowable ($2,500), and then apply the phaseout to whichever is lower? Is that not right? Also, wouldn't the deduction be $0 if their MAGI is above the phaseout ceiling of $175,000? Or am I misunderstanding something?
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Andre Dupont
•You're absolutely right that you first compare the actual interest paid to the maximum allowable amount, and then apply the phaseout to whichever is lower. In this case, the actual interest ($4,200) exceeds the maximum allowable amount ($2,500), so we apply the phaseout to the $2,500. The deduction would be $0 only if their MAGI was at or above the complete phaseout ceiling of $175,000. Since their MAGI is $152,000, they're only partially into the phaseout range, so they still get a partial deduction. The phaseout reduces gradually between $145,000 and $175,000, it doesn't suddenly drop to zero when you hit the lower threshold.
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Jamal Wilson
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Mei Lin
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Mei Lin
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
I used to work as a tax preparer, and this confusion about the student loan interest deduction phaseout is really common! Here's the formula straight from the IRS worksheet: 1. Enter the total interest you paid in 2024 for qualified student loans: $4,200 2. Maximum deduction: $2,500 3. Enter the smaller of line 1 or line 2: $2,500 4. Enter your MAGI: $152,000 5. Base amount for your filing status (MFJ): $145,000 6. Subtract line 5 from line 4: $7,000 7. Divide line 6 by $30,000: 0.233 8. Multiply line 3 by line 7: $583 9. Subtract line 8 from line 3: $1,917 So your maximum deduction would be $1,917, which is closest to the $1,667 option. The key insight is that the phaseout applies to the $2,500 cap, not to your total interest paid.
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Dylan Cooper
•Thank you for breaking this down! Quick question - does the $2,500 limit apply per person or per return? If both spouses have student loan interest, is it still capped at $2,500 total?
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•The $2,500 limit is per tax return, not per person. So even if both spouses have student loan interest, the maximum deduction is still $2,500 total before any phaseout is applied. This is actually a disadvantage of marriage for some couples - two single individuals could each claim up to $2,500 (for a total of $5,000), but married filing jointly caps at $2,500 combined. And if you choose married filing separately, neither spouse can claim the deduction at all.
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AstroAdventurer
Thank you all SO MUCH for the explanations! I see exactly where I went wrong now. I was applying the phaseout percentage to the total interest paid ($4,200) rather than to the maximum allowable deduction ($2,500). So the correct calculation is: 1. Cap the interest at $2,500 2. Calculate the phaseout: $2,500 × 0.233 = $583 3. Deduction after phaseout: $2,500 - $583 = $1,917 That's closer to the $1,667 option than any other choice, which explains why my answer was marked wrong. The test might have used slightly different rounding or a different phaseout range for the year. I feel a bit silly now because looking back at the IRS instructions, it does clearly state to apply the phaseout to the lesser of the actual interest or $2,500. I guess I was overthinking it!
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Andre Dupont
•Don't feel silly at all! This is one of the most commonly misunderstood calculations in tax preparation. Even some professional preparers get it wrong. The important thing is that you understand it now, and you'll get it right when it matters on your actual tax return. And congratulations on passing your assessment despite this one question! That shows your overall tax knowledge is solid.
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Omar Zaki
This is such a great example of why tax education is so important! As someone who's been helping community members with tax questions for years, I see this exact confusion about student loan interest deductions all the time. The key takeaway here is that the IRS applies income-based phaseouts to the MAXIMUM allowable deduction amount, not to what you actually paid. This principle applies to many other tax benefits too - like the child tax credit, education credits, and retirement account contribution deductions. One tip for anyone studying for tax assessments or certifications: when you see a phaseout calculation, always ask yourself "what is the base amount being phased out?" It's usually the maximum benefit amount, not the underlying expense. And @AstroAdventurer, don't beat yourself up about this! The fact that you're taking the time to understand where you went wrong shows you'll be an excellent tax professional. These kinds of detailed calculation questions are designed to test your understanding of the nuances in tax law.
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Omar Fawzi
•This is such valuable insight, thank you! As someone new to tax preparation, I really appreciate how you've highlighted that this phaseout principle applies across different tax benefits. I'm curious - are there any other common calculation mistakes that trip people up during tax assessments? I want to make sure I'm not making similar errors with other credits and deductions. The way you explained looking for the "base amount being phased out" is really helpful and seems like it could apply to so many situations. It's reassuring to know that even experienced preparers sometimes get these details wrong. Makes me feel less intimidated about learning all these complex rules!
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