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How to Handle Startup Founder Shares and 83(B) Election for Tax Filing? Completely Lost

I just co-founded a startup in 2024 with two other people and I'm totally confused about the tax implications. Our company issued me 700K shares as part of our founders agreement. Some of these shares vested immediately when we incorporated and the rest are vesting over the next few years. According to our founding documents, the par value is set at $.0001, but we actually purchased our shares at $.001 per share. So I wrote a check to the company for $700 total ($.001 × 700,000 shares). Our lawyers also filed an 83(B) election with the IRS for me. I'm completely lost about how to handle this for my 2024 taxes. Technically, I paid $700 for something with a par value of $70 ($.0001 × 700,000 shares). Do I need to report this? Is there some kind of income I'm supposed to declare? Does the 83(B) election change anything? Would really appreciate any help figuring out how to report this correctly when I file. I've never dealt with founder shares before and don't want to mess up my taxes.

The 83(b) election is actually your friend here! Since you filed it properly, your tax situation is much simpler than it could have been. When you receive shares subject to vesting (as you did), the IRS typically treats each vesting event as taxable compensation. However, by filing the 83(b) election, you're choosing to recognize any potential income in the year the shares were granted rather than when they vest. In your case, the taxable income would be the difference between what you paid ($.001 per share × 700,000 shares = $700) and the fair market value at grant. Since this appears to be at formation, the par value ($.0001) is likely lower than what you paid, so there's no taxable income to report. For your 2024 taxes, you should keep documentation of the 83(b) filing and the share purchase, but there's likely no additional income to report since you paid more than par value. The real benefit comes later - when your shares appreciate in value, any gains will be capital gains rather than ordinary income.

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This is helpful but I'm still confused about one thing - what if we did a friends and family funding round shortly after incorporation where shares were valued at $.005? Does that change anything with the 83b election? Also should the company have given me any specific tax forms to file?

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If you did a friends and family round valuing shares at $.005 shortly after incorporation, that could potentially establish a fair market value (FMV) higher than what you paid. In that case, you might have taxable income equal to the difference between what you paid ($.001) and the FMV ($.005) multiplied by the number of shares. That would be $.004 × 700,000 = $2,800 of potential ordinary income. The company typically wouldn't issue a specific tax form for the 83(b) election itself. However, if there was taxable income from the transaction, it should be reported on your W-2 if you're an employee or on a 1099-MISC if you're not. Many early-stage startups miss this reporting requirement, which doesn't eliminate your obligation to report the income correctly.

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For startup founder shares and 83(b) elections, there's a critical distinction between "cheap" stock and stock with genuine FMV differentials. Since you bought at formation with the common shares priced at $.001 (above par value of $.0001), you're likely in the clear IF that price represents genuine FMV at formation. The real question is whether $.001 per share was the legitimate FMV at the time of issuance. If you had investor interest or any other indication that the shares were actually worth more, the IRS could argue you received compensation equal to the difference. Also, many founders miss that the 83(b) election must be filed within 30 days of receiving the shares. Did you file within that window? Otherwise, the election might be invalid.

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We did file within the 30-day window! Our lawyers were really strict about that deadline. We didn't have any external investors at the exact time we incorporated and issued the initial shares. We did have some friends/family invest about 3 months later at a slightly higher valuation though. Would the IRS look at that later valuation and try to apply it retroactively to our founder share purchases?

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Good that you filed within the 30-day window - that's a common mistake that can't be fixed later. The IRS generally wouldn't apply a later valuation retroactively if there was a legitimate basis for the initial valuation. At formation, with no product, revenue, or investment, valuing common shares at just above par value is typically reasonable. The key is whether there were any substantive negotiations or commitments from investors already in place when you incorporated, which might suggest a higher valuation already existed. The 3-month gap before your friends/family round provides decent separation, and startups often see legitimate value creation in those early months that justifies a higher valuation. Just make sure you have documentation of the company's state at incorporation versus 3 months later to show real progress that warranted the increase.

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Has anyone actually received an audit focused on 83(b) elections? I'm a founder and trying to understand how much risk there really is. Our lawyer said it's "theoretical" but he's never seen a founder audited specifically for this.

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I've seen it happen. Friend was audited last year and the IRS specifically questioned the valuation used for their founder shares. They had purchased at $.001 but had term sheets from investors at $.08 in progress when they did it. IRS argued they'd undervalued by millions and owed taxes on the difference. Huge mess.

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