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Freya Collins

How do IRS Payment Plan Interest Rates work for $20k tax debt? Can I still set one up after the filing deadline?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a pickle. I just finished my taxes and I owe about $20,000 to the IRS (yikes!). There's no way I can pay this all at once by the deadline tomorrow. I'm thinking about setting up a payment plan, but I'm not sure how the interest works or how long I can stretch out the payments. Does anyone know what the current interest rate is for IRS payment plans? And how many months/years can I spread the payments over for a debt this size? I'm planning to file on time tomorrow, just won't be able to pay the full amount. Any insight would be really appreciated! I'm a bit stressed about this whole situation.

LongPeri

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I've been through this before, so I can help! If you're setting up an IRS payment plan (officially called an Installment Agreement), here's what you need to know: For a $20k debt, you can qualify for a Long-Term Payment Plan. The current IRS interest rate is 8% (changes quarterly), plus they charge a failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% per month (reduced to 0.25% when on a payment plan). For $20k, you can spread payments up to 72 months (6 years). The minimum monthly payment the IRS typically accepts is the total amount divided by 72, so around $280 plus accruing interest. Filing by tomorrow's deadline is crucial because it avoids the much larger failure-to-file penalty of 5% per month! Set it up online through the IRS website for the lowest setup fee ($31 for online payment agreements with direct debit). You'll still accrue interest and penalties until paid off, but they're much lower than if you don't file or set up a plan.

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Freya Collins

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Thank you so much for the detailed response! A couple follow-up questions: Will they automatically approve me for the 72-month plan, or do they sometimes reject these requests? And does the interest rate stay fixed at 8% for the duration of my payment plan, or will it change if the IRS changes their rates?

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LongPeri

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For approval, it's pretty automatic for debts under $50,000 as long as you're current on filing requirements and haven't defaulted on previous payment plans. The online system typically approves immediately if you meet those criteria. The interest rate will change quarterly when the IRS adjusts their rates. It's tied to the federal short-term rate plus 3%, so it can go up or down during your repayment period. The rates have been increasing lately, but no one can predict where they'll go over the next 6 years. The penalty portion stays fixed at 0.25% monthly while you're on the plan.

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Oscar O'Neil

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Ryder Greene

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Liv Park

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider checking if you qualify for any special payment arrangements beyond the standard plans. If you can prove financial hardship, you might qualify for: 1) Currently Not Collectible status - temporarily pauses collection 2) Offer in Compromise - settle for less than you owe 3) Partial Payment Installment Agreement - pay less than full amount over time You'd need to submit Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) to prove hardship. With $20k owed, you might not qualify, but worth checking if your financial situation is dire.

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What kind of documentation would someone need to prove hardship? And is it really possible to settle for less than you owe or is that just one of those tax myths?

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You'd need to document all your income, expenses, assets and liabilities on Form 433-F. This includes bank statements, pay stubs, mortgage/rent documents, utility bills, medical expenses, etc. The IRS uses their own allowable expense standards to determine hardship. Settling for less through an Offer in Compromise is absolutely real, not a myth. The IRS accepted over 25,000 offers last year. However, approval rates are only around 30-40%. They use a formula based on your income, expenses, assets and future earning potential to determine what they'll accept. It's most feasible for people with limited assets and income who genuinely cannot pay the full amount over their lifetime.

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AaliyahAli

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If interest is a big concern, you could also consider alternative ways to pay the IRS. Personal loan rates at credit unions are around 6-10% right now, potentially lower than the combined IRS interest+penalty rate (which is effectively around 11% annually). Some credit cards offer 0% intro APR for 12-18 months, but watch out for balance transfer fees. If you go this route, you'd pay the IRS in full immediately, then make payments to the lender instead. Be careful though - if you can't pay the loan or credit card, those problems can be worse than owing the IRS.

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Freya Collins

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Actually that's not a bad idea! I have pretty good credit (around 780) so I might qualify for a decent rate. I'd much rather owe a bank than the IRS. Any drawbacks to this approach that I should be aware of?

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AaliyahAli

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The main drawback is that IRS payment plans have more flexibility if you hit financial hardship later. The IRS can temporarily reduce or suspend payments if you lose your job or have a medical crisis. Banks and credit card companies typically aren't as accommodating. Another consideration is that if you use a credit card and can't pay it off during the 0% period, the rate will jump significantly higher than the IRS rate - often 18-25%. Finally, large credit card balances can hurt your credit score by increasing your credit utilization ratio, which might impact your ability to get other loans in the future.

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Michael Green

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Just want to add one more important point that I learned the hard way - make sure you file your return by tomorrow's deadline even if you can't pay! The failure-to-file penalty is 5% per month (up to 25% total) while the failure-to-pay penalty is only 0.5% per month. That's a huge difference on $20k. I made the mistake of not filing on time a few years ago because I couldn't pay, and it cost me an extra $5,000 in penalties. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable about payment plans if you file on time and communicate with them. They'd much rather work with you than chase you down later. Also, once you set up the payment plan, make sure you never miss a payment or they can default the entire agreement. Set up autopay if possible to avoid any accidents. Good luck!

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This is such crucial advice! I wish I had known this earlier. I've been putting off filing because I was panicking about not being able to pay the full amount. It's actually a relief to know that filing on time is the most important step, even without payment. The difference between 5% and 0.5% monthly penalties is massive - that could literally save thousands of dollars. Thanks for sharing your experience, even though it was costly for you. Setting up autopay is definitely something I'll do once I get the payment plan in place.

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Paolo Marino

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I just went through this exact situation last month with a similar amount owed. One thing that really helped me was calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Service line (1-866-860-4259) instead of the regular taxpayer line. As long as you have a power of attorney form or are calling about your own account, they typically have much shorter wait times - I got through in about 20 minutes. The agent walked me through all my options and helped me understand that with a $20k balance, I could actually qualify for a "guaranteed" installment agreement since it's under $50k and I was current on filings. They also explained that if I could somehow pay it off within 120 days, there would be no setup fee at all and minimal interest accrual. Another tip: if you're self-employed or have irregular income, ask about a different payment structure. They can sometimes work with seasonal income patterns or allow lower payments during slower months. The key is being upfront about your financial situation when you call.

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Tami Morgan

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Thanks for sharing the Practitioner Priority Service line number! I had no idea there was a separate line with shorter wait times. That's really helpful information. Quick question about the 120-day payment option you mentioned - do you know if there are any restrictions on who qualifies for that? Like income limits or anything? I'm wondering if I could possibly scrape together the $20k within 4 months instead of stretching it out over years. The no setup fee and minimal interest sounds way better than a long-term plan, even if it means tightening my budget significantly for a few months.

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