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Miguel Castro

Has the 2024 Deadline for registering as S corp passed? Worth it for business income?

I'm wondering if I've already missed the boat on registering as an S corp for 2024? Currently operating as a sole proprietorship bringing in roughly $270k this year. My spouse makes about $175k at her corporate job so we file jointly. With these income levels, would making the switch to S corp even be worth the hassle for tax savings? I've heard mixed things about the benefits vs the paperwork headache. Anyone been through this and have advice on the deadline situation and if the potential tax savings would be significant in our situation?

For S corporation elections, if you want it to be effective for the entire 2024 tax year, the deadline would have been March 15, 2024 (2 months and 15 days after the beginning of the tax year). However, you can still elect S corp status mid-year, which would give you partial benefits for 2024, and full benefits going forward. Given your income levels, an S corp could potentially save you significant self-employment taxes. With $270k in business income, you're currently paying 15.3% SE tax on the first $168,600 (2024 FICA limit) and 2.9% Medicare tax on all income. With an S corp, you'd only pay those taxes on a "reasonable salary" portion of your earnings, not the distributions.

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Connor Byrne

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What's considered a "reasonable salary" though? I've heard the IRS can get picky about this. Could they just say my entire $270k should be salary and then there's no benefit?

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A reasonable salary is based on what similar positions would pay in your industry and geographic area. The IRS does scrutinize this, but they don't typically expect your entire profit to be salary. Many tax professionals suggest around 40-60% of profits as salary for service businesses, but it varies widely by industry. For your income level, even if you set a $150k salary, you could potentially save thousands in self-employment taxes on the distribution portion. The key is documenting why your salary amount is reasonable using market research and comparable positions.

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Yara Elias

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QuantumQuasar

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Does taxr.ai handle all the ongoing S corp requirements too? Like payroll and extra tax forms? Or is it just for the initial analysis?

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I'm skeptical of these online services... how accurate was their estimate compared to what you actually saved? Did they factor in the additional costs of running an S-corp (registered agent fees, extra tax filing costs, payroll processing, etc)?

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Yara Elias

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They don't handle the ongoing compliance themselves, but they provide a complete checklist of everything you'll need to do and estimated costs. Their software helps you understand what you're getting into before making the decision. The estimate was pretty close to what I actually saved. They included all the additional costs in their calculation - including estimated tax preparation fees, state filing fees, payroll service costs. That's why it was helpful - it showed the net benefit after all those extra expenses.

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Oliver Weber

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Oliver Weber

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With your income levels, it's definitely worth looking into an S corp. I made the switch when my business hit about $180k and saved around $10k in self-employment taxes the first year. Just remember there are some downsides too: 1) You'll need to run payroll (even if it's just for yourself) 2) Separate tax return for the business (Form 1120-S) 3) More strict record-keeping requirements 4) Potential state fees and franchise taxes Also, the tax savings comes from the split between salary and distributions. If your reasonable salary is $150k and business profit is $270k, you'd save approximately 15.3% on the $120k difference. That's over $18k in potential tax savings, minus the extra costs of maintaining the S corp.

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Miguel Castro

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Thanks for breaking down the numbers! So even with the extra costs of payroll processing and additional tax filings, I'd still come out way ahead. Do you recommend using a payroll service or trying to handle it myself?

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Definitely use a payroll service. The cost is minimal (usually $50-75/month for just yourself) and the peace of mind is worth it. They handle all the tax deposits, quarterly filings, W-2s, etc. Trying to DIY payroll is asking for trouble - the penalties for missed deadlines or incorrect deposits are steep. I use Gusto for my S corp payroll, but there are plenty of good options like OnPay, QuickBooks Payroll, or SurePayroll. Most accounting software integrates with these services too, making bookkeeping easier.

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NebulaNinja

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - the QBI deduction (Qualified Business Income). As a sole proprietor, you currently get to deduct 20% of your qualified business income on your personal return. You still get this with an S corp, but it only applies to the distribution portion, not your salary. With your income levels, you might face phase-out restrictions on QBI deduction anyway since you're married filing jointly and your combined income is above $340k, but it's something to consider in your calculations.

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Javier Gomez

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Wait, I thought QBI applied to S-Corp distributions too? My accountant definitely included my S-Corp distributions in QBI calculations last year...

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NebulaNinja

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Yes, that's exactly what I said - QBI applies to S corp distributions but NOT to the salary portion. So if you take $150k salary and $120k in distributions from your S corp, only the $120k would potentially qualify for the QBI deduction. Your accountant was correct to include S corp distributions in QBI calculations. I was just pointing out that when you compare sole proprietorship to S corp, you need to account for the fact that the salary portion of S corp earnings won't qualify for QBI, whereas all net income from a sole proprietorship potentially qualifies.

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