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Melina Haruko

Gambling Income Records: Detailed Log Requirements for Casino and Online Gambling

I do a mix of online gambling and in-person casino visits. For my online gambling, it's easy - I just download the detailed transaction history since everything is tracked automatically. But I'm confused about how to properly document my in-person casino gambling for tax purposes. When I'm playing blackjack at the casino, it feels awkward to pull out a notebook at the table to track every hand. Would it be sufficient to just make a general note like "Sept 14, 2023 - lost $2,800 playing blackjack at Riverside Casino"? Or does the IRS require more detailed documentation with specific session times, table numbers, or individual bet amounts? I'm trying to stay compliant but also be realistic about what I can track in a live casino environment. Any advice on the minimum required detail for gambling logs when you're playing in person?

While the IRS doesn't specify an exact format for gambling logs, they do expect reasonably detailed records to substantiate your gambling losses. For online gambling, you're doing exactly right by keeping those detailed electronic records. For in-person casino gambling, the IRS understands you can't document every hand of blackjack, but you should record more than just a single entry for the day. At minimum, you should track: 1) Date and time periods of gambling activity 2) The specific casino/location 3) The type of gambling (blackjack, slots, etc.) 4) The amounts won or lost per session. A "session" is typically considered a continuous period of play at one type of game - so if you play blackjack for 2 hours, take a break, then play slots, those would be separate sessions. Many gamblers use a small notebook they keep in their pocket and step away periodically to record results, or use notes on their phone. Some casinos also provide win/loss statements if you use their players card.

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Reina Salazar

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Do casinos actually give you accurate win/loss statements though? I've heard they only track when you use your player card, and even then it's not always accurate with table games. Also, what if you switch tables but stay playing blackjack - is that considered a new session?

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Casino win/loss statements can be helpful supplementary documentation, but you're right that they have limitations. They only track play when your card is used, and for table games they often track buy-ins but not necessarily actual wins or losses during play. They're better than nothing, but your own records are more reliable. Regarding switching tables while playing the same game, that's still generally considered the same session as long as there's not a significant break in play. The IRS is more concerned with tracking different gambling activities by date, type of gambling, and location rather than specific tables. What matters is documenting a reasonable timeline of your gambling activities with associated wins and losses.

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Honorah King

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I worked for a casino for 15 years and dealt with many players concerned about tax documentation. Here's what most successful gamblers do: get a small pocket notebook JUST for gambling, and take 30-second breaks every hour or when changing games to jot quick notes. Date, time, game, amount won/lost since last entry. For blackjack specifically, note your buy-in amount when you first sit down, then track when you add more chips or pocket winnings. The pit bosses actually expect this from serious players - it's not weird like you might think. Many players step away from the table periodically anyway.

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Melina Haruko

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This is really helpful coming from someone with casino experience! How much detail do you think is necessary about the specific games? Like for blackjack, should I note the minimum bet at the table or anything about the specific table number?

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Honorah King

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For tax purposes, the specific table number isn't necessary, but noting the minimum bet amount is actually a good idea as it helps establish the scale of your play. For example, "Blackjack - $25 min, bought in $500, cashed out $350" tells a more complete story than just recording losses. I'd also recommend noting if you played at a specialty table like Spanish 21 or Blackjack Switch since the odds are different from regular blackjack. The IRS doesn't necessarily know the difference, but it shows you're keeping thoughtful records. The goal is to demonstrate that you're tracking your gambling activity in a responsible, consistent way - not necessarily documenting every single hand.

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Oliver Brown

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Don't overcomplicate this. I've been audited twice specifically on gambling losses. What worked for me was using the Notes app on my phone with this simple format: - DATE: 9/15/23 - CASINO: Bellagio - GAMES: Blackjack 4hrs ($3k loss), Craps 1hr ($500 win) - SESSION TOTAL: -$2,500 - YEARLY RUNNING TOTAL: -$8,750 I take 30 seconds to update this between games or when I take breaks. If you use your player's card, also request annual win/loss statements from the casinos as supporting documentation. The key is consistency - log EVERY session, even the winning ones.

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Mary Bates

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That seems manageable. Do you find it better to track by session or by day when you're at the casino for multiple days (like on a Vegas trip)?

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I track by session even on multi-day trips because it gives you better detail if questioned. For example, on a 4-day Vegas trip, I'll have separate entries like "Day 1 - MGM Blackjack 2-4pm: -$800" and "Day 1 - Caesars Slots 8-10pm: +$200". This way if there's ever a question about timing or locations, you have the specifics. The running total is crucial though - it helps you see patterns and also makes it easy to report your annual gambling losses accurately. Plus during my audits, the IRS agents appreciated seeing that I was tracking cumulative losses throughout the year, not just cherry-picking bad days.

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Alfredo Lugo

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As someone who's been through multiple IRS audits for gambling losses, I can tell you that your instinct to be more detailed is correct. A single entry like "lost $2,800 playing blackjack" won't hold up under scrutiny. Here's what has worked for me at live casinos: I use my phone's voice memo feature during bathroom breaks or when getting drinks. I just record something like "3:30 PM, blackjack table 7, bought in $500, currently down $200" and then transcribe it later into a proper log. This way I'm not disrupting play but still capturing the key details. The IRS wants to see that you're systematically tracking gambling activity, not just remembering losses at tax time. Your online records are perfect examples of the detail level they expect. For casino play, aim for: date/time, specific location, game type, buy-in amounts, session duration, and win/loss per session. One tip: if you're a regular at certain casinos, ask the pit boss about their player tracking systems. Some will provide session-level detail if you use your card consistently, which can supplement your own records.

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Lim Wong

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The voice memo idea is brilliant! I never thought of using that feature during casino visits. That would definitely be less awkward than pulling out a notebook at the blackjack table. Do you find that casinos are generally okay with players stepping away briefly to record notes, or have you ever had any issues with dealers or floor managers about it? Also, when you mention transcribing voice memos into a proper log later, do you have a specific format you use? I'm wondering if there's a standard template that works best for IRS documentation purposes.

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