Failed to file 83(b) election in time - any remedies for startup founders?
So my two friends and I started a tech startup back in January. We registered as a Delaware C-corp through clerky.com, and I was vaguely aware of the 83(b) election requirement but completely misunderstood the timing. I thought we had 30 days from when we actually invested money in the company, but just found out it's actually 30 days from when the shares were transferred, which happened back in early January. We each put about $13,500 into the company to develop our software product, but honestly not much has happened with the business yet - still very early stage. One of my co-founders filed their 83(b) election properly within the 30-day window, but the other founder and I totally missed the deadline. Is there anything we can do at this point to remedy the situation? Any options for late filing or some kind of relief? The company hasn't increased in value much if at all, so I'm hoping there might be some way to fix this without major tax consequences down the road.
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Liam Sullivan
The 83(b) election deadline is unfortunately pretty strict - the IRS requires it to be filed within 30 days of receiving restricted stock, and there's no standard extension process for this. Since you missed the deadline, what happens now is that you'll be taxed on the value of your shares as they vest, rather than on their value at the time of grant. If your startup increases in value, you could face significant tax bills at each vesting milestone, even though you can't sell the shares yet to pay those taxes. Given your company hasn't increased much in value yet, your current situation isn't terrible, but it could become problematic if your company grows. One option might be to restructure your equity arrangement - you could potentially cancel the existing equity and issue new grants, which would start a new 30-day clock for the 83(b) election. But this requires careful planning with a tax attorney since it has other implications. Another approach is to adjust your vesting schedule to minimize tax impact, possibly accelerating vesting while company value is still low.
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Amara Okafor
•If they restructure and issue new grants, wouldn't the IRS potentially see that as trying to circumvent the rules? Seems risky. Is there any relief process where you can explain the situation to the IRS and request a late filing exception?
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Liam Sullivan
•The IRS does have a reasonable cause standard for some late elections, but they've historically been very strict about the 83(b) deadline specifically. Courts have consistently upheld the 30-day requirement as mandatory with almost no exceptions. As for restructuring, it's not about circumventing rules but creating a legitimate new equity event. However, you're right that it needs to be done very carefully with proper documentation and business purpose. Simply cancelling and reissuing identical shares purely to get a new 83(b) window would likely be problematic. That's why I emphasized consulting with a tax attorney who specializes in startup equity - they can help structure something that serves legitimate business purposes while also creating a new filing opportunity.
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CosmicCommander
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
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StarSeeker
This might sound drastic, but have you considered dissolving the current corporation and forming a new one? Since you mentioned not much has happened with the company yet, it might be cleaner to just start over with the right paperwork rather than dealing with potential tax headaches later. You could contribute the technology developed so far to the new entity. The costs of forming a new C-corp would be much less than potential tax issues down the road if your company becomes successful. Just a thought.
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Mei Chen
•Thanks for the suggestion! I've been considering something like this. Do you know if there are any tax implications of dissolving an entity so soon after formation? And would we need to formally transfer any IP developed so far to the new entity?
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StarSeeker
•Since the company hasn't increased much in value, dissolving it now shouldn't trigger significant tax consequences. You would need to file final tax returns and formally dissolve with Delaware, but it's a fairly straightforward process. For the IP transfer, yes, you would want to formally document the transfer of any technology or other IP from the old company to the new one. This should be done with proper assignment agreements. If you've already developed valuable IP, you might want a qualified valuation so the contribution to the new entity is properly documented. And definitely file your 83(b) elections within 30 days this time!
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Ava Martinez
Has anyone here actually had their 83(b) situation audited by the IRS? I'm wondering how often they actually enforce this in practice vs. all the theoretical advice.
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Miguel Ortiz
•I work at a startup that got acquired, and one of our engineers who missed filing 83(b) got hit with a HUGE tax bill. Had to pay ordinary income tax on about $800k of stock appreciation that happened over 4 years. Would have been long-term capital gains with much lower rates if he'd filed the 83(b). The audit didn't specifically target the 83(b), but once they were reviewing his returns, the missing election became a problem. He tried to argue he should be allowed to file late but the IRS and then tax court ruled against him.
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Ava Martinez
•Damn, that's rough. Thanks for sharing a real example. Definitely makes me think the theoretical advice isn't just scare tactics. Sounds like it's worth taking seriously and finding a solution now rather than hoping it doesn't become an issue later.
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Zainab Omar
Just to add another perspective - one option no one's mentioned is adjusting your vesting schedule while the company valuation is still low. If you accelerate vesting now, you'll recognize ordinary income on the current (presumably low) value difference between what you paid and fair market value. This won't fix the missed 83(b), but could minimize the tax impact if done while company valuation is still close to what you paid. You'll want a proper 409A valuation to document the current fair market value to support this approach.
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Vera Visnjic
This is a tough situation but you're not completely out of options. I've seen similar cases where founders had some success with a few different approaches: 1. **Document your reasonable cause**: Even though the IRS is strict about the 30-day rule, you should still prepare documentation showing you had reasonable cause for the delay (misunderstanding the timeline, reliance on incorrect advice, etc.). While it rarely works for 83(b) elections, having this documentation ready could help if you ever face penalties. 2. **Consider a Section 83(b) "protective election"**: Some tax advisors suggest filing the election anyway with a cover letter explaining the circumstances, even though you're past the deadline. The IRS will likely reject it, but it creates a paper trail showing your intent and good faith effort. 3. **Restructure now while valuation is low**: Since your company hasn't increased much in value, this is actually the best time to explore restructuring options. The tax consequences of canceling and reissuing shares would be minimal at current valuations. 4. **Plan for the future**: Make sure you understand exactly how the missed election will affect you at different exit scenarios (acquisition, IPO, etc.) so you can plan accordingly. The key is acting quickly while your company valuation is still low. Once it starts growing, your options become much more limited and expensive.
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