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Do I need to file FBAR for my Wise (formerly Transferwise) Borderless Account with multiple currencies?

Title: Do I need to file FBAR for my Wise (formerly Transferwise) Borderless Account with multiple currencies? 1 I opened a Wise Borderless account earlier this year and I'm trying to figure out the tax reporting requirements as a US citizen. The account holds multiple currencies - USD, Euros, Swiss Francs, and Australian dollars since I occasionally need to send money to family overseas and Wise offers better exchange rates than my bank. The total across all currencies has been pretty low, probably around $750-800 max at any point. I've never come close to the $10,000 FBAR threshold. Do I still need to report this account on an FBAR for this year's taxes? Or will I need to report it next year? I'm trying to make sure I stay compliant with all the foreign account reporting requirements but I'm not sure if this type of multi-currency account has different rules.

StarGazer101

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8 Yes, you do need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) for your Wise Borderless Account even though the balance is well below $10,000. The reason is that Wise accounts are considered foreign financial accounts for FBAR purposes since the company is based in the UK, regardless of which currencies you're holding. The $10,000 threshold applies to the aggregate maximum value of ALL your foreign financial accounts during the calendar year - not just each individual account. So if you have any other foreign accounts that, when combined with your Wise account, exceed $10,000 at any point during the year, you'd need to report all of them. Even if you're under the threshold, reporting isn't going to hurt anything. The FBAR filing is separate from your tax return and is filed electronically directly with FinCEN by April 15th (with an automatic extension to October 15th).

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StarGazer101

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12 Wait, I'm confused. If the OP's account never went above $800 and they don't have any other foreign accounts, do they still need to file the FBAR? I thought the threshold was $10,000 across all foreign accounts combined. Could you clarify?

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StarGazer101

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8 You're absolutely right, and I should have been clearer. If your Wise account is your ONLY foreign account and its total value across all currencies never exceeded $10,000 during the calendar year, then you don't need to file an FBAR. The key point is to consider the aggregate value of all foreign accounts you own or have signature authority over. Since your maximum balance was around $800 and you mentioned no other foreign accounts, you would be below the threshold and wouldn't need to file the FBAR.

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StarGazer101

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5 I went through the exact same confusion with my Wise account last year! I ended up using https://taxr.ai to help me figure out all my FBAR requirements since I also have a small investment account in Canada. Their system analyzed my Wise account statements and confirmed that I needed to file since my combined foreign accounts were over $10k at one point. The tricky part with Wise is that it technically holds your money in multiple countries depending on which currency "pocket" the funds are in. The tool explained exactly how to report each currency pocket and whether they count as separate accounts for FBAR. Super helpful instead of trying to decipher all the FinCEN guidance myself!

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StarGazer101

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17 Does taxr.ai help with actually filing the FBAR or does it just tell you if you need to file? And how does it handle the different currency conversion rates throughout the year for determining if you hit the $10k threshold?

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StarGazer101

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9 I'm a bit skeptical about using a third-party service for this. Couldn't you just call the IRS or look at their website for the correct information? I've heard some of these tax tools just tell everyone to file everything to cover their bases rather than giving specific advice.

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StarGazer101

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5 It doesn't file the FBAR for you, but it analyzes your statements and tells you exactly what needs to be reported and how. It handles the currency conversion automatically using the Treasury's official exchange rates for each date, so it can accurately calculate whether your accounts hit the threshold at any point. The reason I found it helpful is that the IRS guidance doesn't specifically address multi-currency accounts like Wise very clearly, and when I called, I got different answers from different agents. The tool was able to analyze my specific situation with all the currency movements and gave me documentation to back up the filing decision if ever questioned.

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StarGazer101

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17 I just wanted to follow up and say I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. Super helpful! I've had a Wise account for about 2 years along with a small savings account in my parents' home country. The tool analyzed everything and showed me exactly how to calculate the maximum values for FBAR reporting. Turns out I actually did need to file because when combining my accounts and converting everything to USD on the specific date my balances peaked, I was just over the threshold. The detailed report it generated showed exactly how to complete each field on the FBAR form. Definitely worth it for peace of mind!

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StarGazer101

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3 If you're having trouble getting clear answers about your FBAR filing requirements, I was in the same boat last year. The IRS FBAR hotline had me on hold for hours. I finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to a live person at the IRS. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c They got me connected with an IRS FBAR specialist in about 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days. The agent confirmed that my Wise account only needed reporting if all foreign accounts together exceeded $10k, and explained how to properly convert the various currencies for reporting purposes. Having that direct conversation saved me so much stress and uncertainty.

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StarGazer101

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19 How does this service actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? I don't understand how they can get through when regular people can't.

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StarGazer101

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9 This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS doesn't have a special fast lane for certain callers. They're notoriously understaffed and everyone waits. I doubt any service could actually get you through faster.

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StarGazer101

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3 They actually use technology that navigates the IRS phone system and holds your place in line. When they reach a human, they call you and connect you directly to the IRS agent. They don't call on your behalf - you speak directly with the IRS yourself. I was skeptical too, but it actually works. They use automated systems to maintain your place in the queue through all the disconnects and transfers that normally happen when you call the IRS. They've apparently figured out the patterns in the IRS phone system to optimize getting through.

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StarGazer101

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9 I have to eat my words about both services mentioned above. After struggling with my FBAR questions for weeks, I tried Claimyr out of desperation. Within 30 minutes, I was speaking with an actual IRS foreign accounts specialist who walked me through exactly how Wise accounts should be reported. The agent explained that each currency in a Wise account could potentially be considered a separate account for FBAR purposes depending on how they're structured and held, but that the $10k threshold still applies to the aggregate total. They also confirmed that I needed to use the Treasury's exchange rate on the date of the maximum balance. Having that official confirmation directly from the IRS was incredibly relieving after all the conflicting information online.

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StarGazer101

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14 Former bank compliance officer here. One thing to remember about Wise accounts that often causes confusion: technically, your money is held in multiple financial institutions across different countries. Your Euros might be in Belgium, your USD in the US, etc. However, for FBAR purposes, what matters is whether YOU have foreign financial accounts totaling $10k+. Since you're a US citizen, your USD portion in Wise isn't considered foreign (if it's held in a US institution), but the other currencies likely are. Add up the highest balances of all foreign-held portions (converting to USD using that day's exchange rate), and if that plus any other foreign accounts exceeds $10k at any point in the year, you need to file.

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StarGazer101

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7 So wait, if I have $5k in euros and $5k in British pounds in my Wise account on the same day, that would put me over the threshold? Do I need to list each currency as a separate account on the FBAR?

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StarGazer101

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14 Yes, if you had $5k equivalent in euros and $5k equivalent in British pounds on the same day, and those currencies are held in financial institutions outside the US, that would put you at $10k in foreign accounts, meeting the threshold. For reporting purposes, you generally report each foreign financial institution separately on the FBAR. With Wise, it gets complicated because they use different partner banks. The most conservative approach is to list each currency held in a non-US institution as a separate line item on the FBAR, noting "Wise" followed by the currency type. Always document your maximum balances and the exchange rates you used for your records.

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StarGazer101

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11 I actually think there's some confusion in this thread. Wise (formerly Transferwise) accounts are borderless but that doesn't automatically make them foreign accounts for US persons. What matters is where the financial institution holding your money is located. The Wise USD balance is typically held in US banks (Community Federal Savings Bank last I checked). So that portion wouldn't count as a foreign account for FBAR. Only the non-USD balances held in non-US financial institutions would count toward your foreign account total.

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StarGazer101

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21 So does that mean if I only keep USD in my Wise account, I don't need to worry about FBAR at all? I've been filing it unnecessarily?

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StarGazer101

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11 That's generally correct. If you only maintain USD in your Wise account, and Wise holds those dollars in a US financial institution (which they typically do), then that portion wouldn't be considered a foreign financial account for FBAR purposes. However, I'd recommend confirming this with Wise directly for your specific account, as their banking relationships can change. They can tell you exactly where each currency is held, which is the determining factor. Always better to be cautious with FBAR compliance since the penalties for non-filing can be severe, even when unintentional.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Just to add another perspective here - I've been using Wise for about 3 years and went through this exact same confusion. The key thing I learned is that you need to look at WHERE each currency is actually held, not just that it's a "foreign" company. I contacted Wise support directly and they provided me with a detailed breakdown of which banks hold each currency. My USD was indeed held at a US bank (Community Federal Savings Bank), so that didn't count toward FBAR. But my EUR and GBP were held at European banks, so those did count. The tricky part is tracking the daily balances throughout the year to find your maximum. I ended up creating a simple spreadsheet to track this since Wise statements don't always make it obvious when you hit peak balances across multiple currencies. One more tip: if you're even remotely close to the $10k threshold, it's probably worth filing the FBAR anyway. The penalties for not filing when required are much worse than over-filing when not required. Better safe than sorry with FinCEN compliance.

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Skylar Neal

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to all this FBAR stuff and your point about contacting Wise directly for the bank breakdown is smart. Did they provide that information easily, or did you have to push for it? I'm worried about seeming suspicious by asking too many questions about where my money is held. Also, when you say you tracked daily balances - were you logging into your account every day to check, or is there a way to export historical data? I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to monitor this going forward since I plan to keep using Wise for international transfers.

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JaylinCharles

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Wise was actually pretty helpful when I contacted them about this! I just explained that I needed to understand where each currency is held for US tax compliance purposes - they deal with these questions regularly so nothing seemed suspicious about it. They provided a clear breakdown within a few days via their support chat. For tracking balances, I didn't log in daily (that would be crazy!). What I did was download my monthly statements and then noted any significant deposits or transfers in a simple spreadsheet. The key is identifying the dates when you might have hit peak balances - usually right after large transfers or currency conversions. Then I'd check those specific dates more carefully. You can also set up balance alerts in the Wise app if you're getting close to thresholds. That way you get notified when your combined foreign currency balances are approaching levels you need to track more carefully for FBAR purposes.

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Based on what you've described, you likely don't need to file an FBAR for your Wise account this year since your maximum balance across all currencies was only around $800. The FBAR filing requirement only kicks in when the aggregate value of ALL your foreign financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any point during the calendar year. However, there are a couple of important nuances to consider with Wise accounts: 1. **Location matters more than currency**: As others have mentioned, what determines if an account is "foreign" for FBAR purposes is where the financial institution holding your money is located, not the currency type. Your USD in Wise is likely held at a US bank and wouldn't count toward the threshold. 2. **Keep good records**: Even though you're well below the threshold now, I'd recommend tracking your balances more carefully going forward. If you start using the account more frequently for larger transfers, you could potentially hit the threshold without realizing it. 3. **Consider other accounts**: Make sure you're not forgetting any other foreign accounts - even small investment accounts, savings accounts in other countries, or accounts you have signature authority over (like business accounts) all count toward the aggregate total. Since you're nowhere near the $10k threshold with just this account, you should be fine for this year's filing. But definitely keep documentation of your maximum balances just in case!

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This is such a clear explanation, thank you! I've been stressing about this for weeks. One follow-up question - you mentioned keeping documentation of maximum balances "just in case." What kind of documentation should I be saving? Just screenshots of my Wise dashboard, or do I need something more formal like monthly statements? And how long should I keep these records? I want to make sure I'm covered if there are ever any questions down the road.

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