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Logan Chiang

Do I need Form 1040-ES or 1099-S after selling my house between 1-2 years for profit?

I just closed on my house sale last month after living in it for 18 months and made about $42,000 in profit. I know I have to pay capital gains tax (15% rate I think) since I owned it less than 2 years. My closing attorney told me to just file a 1040-ES form and pay the estimated tax online to the IRS this quarter, and that should take care of everything. No other forms needed. Does this sound right? Or should I be using a 1099-S form instead? For payment, do I just go to IRS Direct Pay and select "Estimated Tax" when making the payment? If 1099-S is the correct form, would it fall under a different payment category? Also, the title company hasn't sent me any tax documents like a 1099-S. Should I have received something from them after closing? One more thing - I usually file my taxes with TurboTax. Will there be a way to indicate I already paid taxes on the house sale so I don't end up paying twice? Thanks for any help you can give me on this confusing situation!

Isla Fischer

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Your attorney is essentially correct. The 1040-ES is what you use to make estimated tax payments, which is what you should do if you have a significant capital gain that wasn't subject to withholding. The 1099-S is actually an information return that the closing agent or title company should provide to you (and the IRS) reporting the sale proceeds of your home. You don't "use" this form yourself - you receive it and then use the information when filing your taxes. If you haven't received one, they may not have been required to issue it depending on certain exemptions related to primary residences. For payment, yes - use IRS Direct Pay and select "Estimated Tax" as the payment reason, and the applicable quarter. This payment will be reported when you file your annual tax return. When you file your 2023 taxes with TurboTax, there will be a section for reporting both the home sale and any estimated tax payments you made. The software will walk you through entering the 1099-S information (if you receive one) and your estimated payments, which will prevent any double taxation.

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Thanks for clarifying! How do I know what amount to pay for estimated taxes? Do I calculate 15% of my total profit or is there more to it? Also, will I get in trouble if the title company was supposed to send a 1099-S but didn't?

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Isla Fischer

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For estimating your tax payment, the simplified approach would be to multiply your gain (approximately $42,000) by 15%. However, capital gains tax can be more complex depending on your overall income, which might push you into a different bracket (0%, 15%, or 20%). You may want to use the IRS's tax withholding estimator or consult with a tax professional to get a precise figure. You won't get in trouble if the title company didn't send a 1099-S when they should have - that's their responsibility, not yours. You're still required to report the sale regardless of whether you receive the form. If you're concerned, you could contact the title company to ask if they'll be issuing one, but you can proceed with your estimated tax payment either way.

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Daniel Rivera

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Just as an FYI, I think your attorney meant to file a 1040-ES PAYMENT VOUCHER, not actually "file a form 1040-ES" - this is just a slip you send with your check if you're mailing a payment instead of paying online. If you're using Direct Pay online, you don't even need the voucher. Also, when you file your taxes next year, you'll need to report the home sale on Form 8949 and Schedule D, not just mention that you made an estimated payment. The payment and the reporting of the sale are two separate things.

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Logan Chiang

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Thank you for that clarification! So if I'm understanding correctly, I'll just make the payment online now using Direct Pay with the Estimated Tax option, and then when I file my taxes next year, I'll need to use Form 8949 and Schedule D in addition to reporting the estimated payment I made? Will TurboTax walk me through all of this automatically?

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Daniel Rivera

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Yes, that's exactly right. Just make the payment online now using the Direct Pay Estimated Tax option for the current quarter. Then when tax time comes around next year, TurboTax will definitely walk you through reporting both the home sale (on Form 8949 and Schedule D) and the estimated tax payment you made. TurboTax is pretty good about asking if you sold any property during the year and will guide you through entering all the details including your basis (what you paid plus improvements), selling price, and dates. It will also ask about estimated tax payments you made during the year. Just make sure you select the option to report a home sale when going through the program.

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Quick question - will I also need to fill out this stupid 1040-ES form if I'm selling my house in October? I'll have owned it for exactly 18 months and expect to make around $80k. So confused about all this tax stuff!

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Isla Fischer

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Yes, you'd be in a similar situation. Since you'll make a significant profit on a house you've owned for less than 2 years, you should make an estimated tax payment using the 1040-ES payment system (either online or with a voucher if mailing a check). The amount would depend on your tax bracket, but at minimum, you'd want to pay estimated tax on the capital gain to avoid an underpayment penalty. Since your sale is in October, you'd make the payment for the fourth quarter of the tax year. Just like the original poster, you'll need to report the sale on your tax return using Form 8949 and Schedule D.

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Elijah Knight

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I'm in a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my research. One thing to keep in mind is that the 15% capital gains rate isn't guaranteed - it depends on your total income for the year. If your adjusted gross income (including the capital gain) puts you in a higher tax bracket, you could be looking at 20% instead of 15%. Also, don't forget that you can reduce your capital gain by adding your selling costs (realtor commissions, title fees, etc.) and any qualifying home improvements you made during the 18 months you owned it. These can significantly reduce the amount you owe. For the 1099-S question - title companies are required to issue one if the proceeds are $250,000 or more, but they have some discretion for smaller amounts. Even if you don't receive one, you still need to report the sale. I'd suggest keeping all your closing documents organized since you'll need them for your tax filing regardless. One last tip: consider making the estimated payment slightly higher than your calculation to avoid any potential underpayment penalties. You'll get any overpayment back as a refund when you file your return.

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