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Ava Kim

Can the IRS hold my federal refund if I owe state taxes?

So I'm kinda freaking out right now. I just got this scary notification from the state tax department saying they tried to collect on my unpaid state taxes directly from my bank account. Problem is, I didn't have enough money in there to cover what I owe (about $2800 from last year). Now I'm super worried about my federal refund that I'm expecting soon - it's around $1650 and I REALLY need that money for some upcoming bills. My question is: can the IRS just decide to take my federal refund and use it to pay my state tax debt? Or are state and federal completely separate and I'll still get my federal refund as normal? And if the state can't get money from my bank account, will they just take it from my state refund instead? I'm so confused about how this all works. Any help would be appreciated!

The good news is that the IRS (federal) and your state tax authority are separate entities. The IRS won't automatically take your federal refund to pay state tax debt. However, there are some important things to know: States can use their own refunds to offset state tax debt, so if you're expecting a state refund, they'll likely apply it to what you owe before sending you any remainder. That said, if your state tax debt becomes severely delinquent, states can sometimes participate in the Treasury Offset Program (TOP), which could eventually impact your federal refund. This usually happens only after multiple collection attempts and notifications. Based on what you've described, it sounds like your state tax authority is still in the direct collection phase rather than utilizing offset programs. I would recommend contacting your state tax department to set up a payment plan before they escalate collection efforts.

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Layla Mendes

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Wait, so does that mean the state can eventually get to my federal refund? How long does that usually take? Also, if I set up a payment plan with the state, will that definitely prevent them from trying to take my federal refund?

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Most states need to go through several steps before they can access your federal refund through the Treasury Offset Program. This typically takes several months of non-payment and requires multiple notice letters to be sent to you. It's not an immediate process. If you set up a payment plan with your state and stick to it, they generally won't pursue additional collection actions including the offset program. The payment plan establishes you as a taxpayer in good standing who is actively addressing the debt, which typically stops escalation of collection efforts.

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Does this actually work for state tax departments or just for the IRS? I've been trying to reach my state department for days and just get disconnected.

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Just to add another perspective - I had unpaid state taxes a few years back and still got my federal refund with no issues. The key is that state and federal are separate systems. I ended up setting up a payment plan with my state and that stopped them from trying to levy my bank account. Definitely call your state tax agency ASAP though - the longer you wait, the more aggressive their collection efforts will get. And the late payment penalties add up fast!

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Ava Kim

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Thanks for sharing this! Did you have to provide any financial statements or anything when you set up the payment plan? I'm worried they're going to want to see all my finances and I'm kind of a mess with documentation.

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For my payment plan, they didn't require full financial statements since my tax debt was under $5,000. I just had to complete a form showing my basic income and expenses. They were mostly concerned with establishing a monthly payment I could consistently make. The process was actually pretty straightforward - took about 30 minutes on the phone. Just make sure you're ready with your ID number from the tax notice, your social security number, and maybe a recent paystub. The most important thing is to call them before they escalate to more serious collection actions.

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Alicia Stern

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another thing to know - the state CAN eventually get your federal refund through the Treasury Offset Program but it usually takes MONTHS before they refer your debt to that program. you'll get multiple notices before that happens. also each state has different rules about when they can use TOP. if your trying to avoid them taking your federal refund, you should call the state ASAP and work out a payment plan. once you have a plan and make your first payment they usually stop collection attempts including bank levies.

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Is this true for all states? I live in Texas and owe state taxes too.

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Ava Kim

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Thank you for this info! I'll definitely call them tomorrow. Do you know if they're usually willing to do reasonable payment plans even if you've ignored their previous notices? (Not my proudest moment...

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Yes, they're generally willing to work with you on payment plans even if you've missed previous notices. The key is showing that you're serious about resolving the debt now. When you call, be honest about your financial situation and propose a realistic monthly payment amount based on what you can actually afford. Most state tax agencies would rather have you on a payment plan than continue expensive collection efforts. Just make sure whatever payment amount you agree to is something you can stick with - breaking a payment plan makes things much harder the second time around. Also, ask if they can waive or reduce any penalties as part of setting up the plan. Some states will do this for first-time payment plan agreements, especially if you can make a small initial payment when you set it up.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year - owed about $2,400 to my state and was panicking about my federal refund getting taken. The short answer is that your federal refund should be safe for now, but you definitely want to act quickly. Here's what I learned: States and the IRS are completely separate systems, so they can't just automatically grab your federal refund. However, if your state debt goes unpaid for too long (usually many months), they can eventually refer it to the Treasury Offset Program, which COULD intercept your future federal refunds. The key is to call your state tax department immediately and set up a payment plan. Once you're on a payment plan and making payments, they typically stop all collection activities including bank levies and won't refer your debt to the offset program. Most states are pretty reasonable about payment plans if you're proactive about calling them. Don't wait - the sooner you call, the more options you'll have and the less stressed you'll be about your federal refund.

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This is really helpful! I'm curious - when you called your state tax department, were they pretty understanding about setting up the payment plan? I'm worried they're going to be really harsh or demanding since I let it go this long. Also, did you have to pay any setup fees or anything extra to get on the payment plan? I keep putting off making the call because I'm honestly a bit scared of what they're going to say, but reading everyone's experiences here is giving me more confidence that it might not be as bad as I'm imagining.

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