Can property in an LLC still get stepped-up basis after death? Farm estate planning question
My father has been living on his farm for decades. About 10 years ago, he decided to set up a life estate because he was concerned about potential Medicaid estate recovery. Later, he transferred the property into an LLC, but here's where things get messy - he can't locate any documentation showing who actually owns the LLC. As far as he understands, it's supposed to be owned by his children (me and my siblings), but we can't find any paperwork confirming this. With the Beneficial Ownership Information (BOI) reporting requirements coming up, I know we'll need to get this situation straightened out soon. What I'm really concerned about is the stepped-up basis issue when he eventually passes away. If the farm property is technically owned by an LLC that's owned by us (his children), does this arrangement eliminate the stepped-up basis we would normally receive at his death? What factors do we need to consider regarding the tax implications of this setup?
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Cameron Black
This is definitely a situation that needs to be sorted out, and you're smart to be thinking about the stepped-up basis implications now rather than later. The stepped-up basis rules apply differently depending on how the LLC is structured and who actually owns it. If your father still owns the LLC (as a single-member LLC), then the property inside would still qualify for a stepped-up basis at his death. However, if the LLC is indeed owned by you and your siblings already, then no stepped-up basis would apply because technically you already own the property (through the LLC) while he's still alive. The life estate complicates things further. Typically, with a life estate, the property would receive a partial step-up in basis based on the value of the life estate at death. But transferring it to an LLC afterward creates questions about whether that life estate arrangement is still valid.
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Victoria Jones
•Thanks for explaining that. So if we find out he's still the owner of the LLC, we'd get the step-up, but if we (the kids) already own it, we wouldn't. What about if he owns part of the LLC and we own part? Would there be a partial step-up? Also, do you know how we can find out who actually owns the LLC if we can't find the paperwork?
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Cameron Black
•If your father owns a percentage of the LLC and you children own the rest, then yes, you would receive a partial step-up in basis proportional to your father's ownership percentage of the LLC at his death. To determine who actually owns the LLC, start by checking with the Secretary of State where the LLC was formed - they should have the Articles of Organization on file. Additionally, check with the attorney who helped set it up, review tax returns for the LLC (Schedule K-1s show ownership), or look for an operating agreement which typically spells out ownership percentages. Your father's accountant may also have records of the ownership structure.
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Benjamin Carter
I'm an estate planner, and I see this situation fairly often. Regarding the BOI reporting requirements, you'll definitely want to figure out ownership ASAP. One place to look is past tax returns - if the LLC has been filing as a partnership, the K-1s would show ownership percentages. If your dad did this for Medicaid planning, it's possible he retained the life estate while transferring LLC ownership to you kids, which would protect the property from Medicaid recovery but would also mean no stepped-up basis (as others have mentioned). Worth noting: if this transfer happened within Medicaid's lookback period (5 years in most states), it could still be problematic for Medicaid eligibility.
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Victoria Jones
•We hadn't even considered the lookback period issue! I'm pretty sure the initial life estate was created more than 5 years ago, but the LLC might have been formed more recently. Would the transfer to the LLC count as a new transfer for Medicaid purposes, even if the life estate was already in place?
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Benjamin Carter
•Yes, transferring the property from a life estate into an LLC could potentially be considered a new transfer that restarts the Medicaid lookback clock. This is because you're changing the form of ownership, which Medicaid might view as a new gift or transfer. It's critical to review the exact timing and documentation of both transactions. If the LLC formation was indeed within the 5-year lookback period, you may need to consider additional planning strategies. You might want to consult with an elder law attorney who specializes in Medicaid planning to review your specific situation and documents to determine the exact implications.
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Maya Lewis
Has anyone here dealt with converting a farm property from an LLC back to individual ownership before a parent's passing? We did this with my grandfather's farm last year to ensure we got the stepped-up basis, but now I'm worried about potential gift tax implications since the LLC was originally in our names (the kids).
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Isaac Wright
•When we did something similar, our tax attorney advised us to dissolve the LLC and distribute the property back to my father (the original owner) more than a year before any anticipated sale. There were no gift tax issues since it was going back to the original owner, but we did have to file some special paperwork with the property transfer. It worked out well - when he passed, we got the full stepped-up basis and saved about 35% on taxes when we eventually sold.
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Maya Lewis
•Thanks, that's reassuring! Did you have to pay any transfer taxes or recording fees when moving the property back to your father's name? Our county has some hefty transfer taxes, and I'm trying to figure out if there are any exemptions for this kind of family transfer.
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MoonlightSonata
The missing LLC documentation is a red flag that needs immediate attention, especially with BOI reporting deadlines approaching. I'd recommend starting with your state's Secretary of State office - they should have the Articles of Organization on file that will show who signed as the organizer and initial members. For the stepped-up basis question, the key factor is who actually owns the LLC membership interests at the time of your father's death. If he retained ownership (making it a single-member LLC), the property gets stepped-up basis. If you kids already own the LLC, no step-up occurs since you technically already own the property. Given the Medicaid planning aspect, I suspect the LLC ownership was likely transferred to you children to protect the asset, which would unfortunately eliminate the stepped-up basis benefit. However, if your father retained even a small percentage of ownership, that portion would qualify for step-up. You might want to consider having the LLC dissolve and distribute the property back to your father if he's still healthy and the goal is to maximize the stepped-up basis for your family. Just be mindful of the Medicaid lookback period implications that others have mentioned.
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Evelyn Kelly
•This is really helpful advice, especially about checking with the Secretary of State office first. I'm new to dealing with estate planning issues, but this whole thread has been eye-opening about how complex these LLC arrangements can get. One thing I'm wondering - if we do find out that my father retained some ownership percentage, is there a way to restructure things now to maximize the stepped-up basis without running into Medicaid issues? It sounds like there might be a narrow window to make changes, but I'm not sure what the best approach would be for someone just starting to understand these rules. Also, does anyone know if the BOI reporting requirements might actually help us figure out the current ownership structure, or is that something we need to resolve before we can even file the BOI report?
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